House Higher Education Finance and Policy Division  3/13/19

House Higher Education Finance and Policy Division 3/13/19


GAVEL>>CHAIR BERNARDY: I WILL CALL THE HOUSE HIGHER EDUCATION FINANCE POLICY DIVISION TO ORDER. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM AND WOULD ANYONE LIKE THAT IS LOOKED OVER TWO MINUTES WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THA T WE FOR MARCH 12 THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES? THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK. REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK MOVES APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF MARCH 12; 2019. ANY DISCUSSION? I THINK I’LL DO A LITTLE DISCUSSION HERE BECAUSE I’VE NOT DONE THIS FOR BUT I LIKE TO ADDING MILLER FOR JUST A DOING A GOOD JOB ON OUR MINUTES. WE USUALLY DON’T HAVE DISCUSSION ON THEM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY; AYE. [CHORUS OF AYES.] THOSE OPPOSED SAY; NAY. THE MOTION PREVAILS AND THEN MINUTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED>>[GAVEL]>>CHAIR BERNARDY: WE HAVE A SPECIAL GUEST HERE TODAY. HE DOES NOT SERVE OUR COMMITTEE THAT A REPRESENTATIVE NELSON COME ON UP. WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE. REPRESENTATIVE NELSON>>REPRESENTATIVE NELSON: MME. CHAIR WHICH BILL WOULD YOU LIKE YOU TO DO FIRST>>CHAIR BERNARDY: I WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO HOUSE FILE 225 AND REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR LIKE ME TO CALL ON>>REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR: I LIGHT WOULD LIKE TO MOVE HOUSE>>REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR: I LIGHT WOULD LIKE TO MOVE HOUSE FILE 220 5B>>REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR: I LIGHT WOULD LIKE TO MOVE HOUSE FILE 225 B2 25 BE REFERRED TO WAYS AND MEANS>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE.>>REPRESENTATIVE NELSON: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. MEMBERS; THIS IS BOTH THESE BILLS ARE TWO PROJECTS FOR NORTH HENNEPIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE. FIRST ONE HERE IS [INAUDIBLE] MEMBERS; THESE WERE BILLS I HAD LAST YEAR SO HAD REDRAFTED FROM LAST YEAR AND SO THAT’S WHAT THE NUMBERS IN THE BILL ARE IN THE BILL. I WAS JUST INFORMED THAT THE REPLACEMENT AND I DO NOT UNDERSTAND LAST YEAR WHEN WE DRAFTED THE BILL THAT THE $140;000 THAT’S IN THE BILL IS FOR ONE CHILLER. THERE’S EIGHT OF THEM. THEY NOW SO THE COST OF THATIS $911;000 THAT THEY NEED FOR THE CHILLER B UT I THINK WE CAN DO THAT MOVING FORWARD IN CAPITAL INVESTMENT OR WE CAN DO THAT HERE EITHER WAY. WE COULD [INAUDIBLE] VERBAL AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE NUMBER OF DO THAT IN COMMITTEE TO ALLOW THAT IN COMMITTEE?>>CHAIR BERNARDY: OUR MEMBERS OKAY WITH THAT? DOING AN ORAL AMENDMENT. IT JUST A CHANGE IN THE DOLLAR AMOUNT>>REPRESENTATIVE NELSON: YES THE DOLLAR AMOUNT 1.16 AND 1.2 CHANGES FROM 140 $140-$911;000>>CHAIR BERNARDY: SAY THE AMOUNT AGAIN IN THE LINE AGAIN>>REPRESENTATIVE NELSON: LINE 1.6 AND LINE 1.12 IS A CHANGE THE 140;000 TO 911;000.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS FOR US TAKING THAT AMENDMENT TODAY? REPRESENTATIVE NORNES>>REPRESENTATIVE NORNES: CAN WE HAVE AN EXPIRATION ONE MORE TIME AS TO>>REPRESENTATIVE NELSON: THE BILL WAS GIVEN INFORMATION LAST YEAR I WAS TOTALLY 140;000 WAS THE COST BUT THEN AT 143 FOR EACH UNIT AND THERE ARE EIGHT UNITS. LOOKING BACK THERE TO MAKE SURETHE INFORMATION RIGHT. SO THE 140;000 WAS TIMES EIGHT SO LAST YEAR’S FIGURE AND A MEANS THE BILL WOULD OF GOT A HEARING THAT WOULD’VE MOVED FORWARD AND I WOULD’VE KNOWN THAT LAST YEAR BUT THESE ARE CHILLERS USING THE AIR CONDITIONER IN THE BUILDING AND ARE LEAKING VERY BADLY AS THE PICTURE IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR PAGE; THE PICTURE YOU GOT SHOWS THE CHILLERS AND ON THE FAR RIGHT SIDE YOU CAN SEE THEY ARE LEAKING VERY BADLY. THE LEAKING OUT; WATER IS LEAKING OUT THERE VERY INEFFICIENT AND THIS WILL INCREASE THE EFFICIENCY OF OF THESE CHILLERS SO THAT’S WHAT THE BILL DOES. IT’S A BONDING PROJECTT O REPLACE THOSE CHILLERS. I WAS TOLD THIS IS CURRENTLY THIS IS THE FIRST NUMBER ONE PRIORITY ON THE HEAPR LIST FOR HAVING COMMITTEE COLLEGE.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE NOOR STILL A FOLLOW-UP? IT’S MNLARS I DO NOT>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE NORNES BEEN THE LEAD ON YOUR SIDE YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS WITH DOING THAT PART OF THIS COMMITTEE OR WOULD YOU PREFER WE WAIT>>REPRESENTATIVE NORNES: I WOULD NOT OBJECT TO THAT IT IS NOT JUST A LITTLE CHANGE BUT IT’S QUITE BIG.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: YES>>CHAIR NORNESS:>>REPRESENTATIVE NORNES: WERE NOT THE FINAL APPEAR.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: RIGHT. REPRESENTATIVE QUAM>>REPRESENTATIVE QUAM: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR . I’M ASSUMING BECAUSE THE NUMBER USE OUR ARE SUBSTITUTING IS NOT A TIMES 140 THAT IT’S AN ACTUAL NUMBER WE ARE GIVING?>>REPRESENTATIVE NELSON: YES. LAST YEAR WHEN I HAD THAT THEY HAD AN ESTIMATE THE COST WAS CAN BE 140;000 AND NOW THEY ACTUALLY GONE OUT AND GOT ESTIMATES A SOLID ESTIMATE FROM THE CONTRACTOR SO THEY KNOW WITH THE ACTUAL COST MIGHT BE.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: SO IT’S ON SITE MEMBERS ONE OBJECT IF WE PUT THE CORRECT AMOUNT IN HERE. TO HAVE IT MOVE FORWARD IN THE FORM THAT THE AUTHOR WISHES. REPRESENTATIVE KLEVORN SPIEGELMAN MME. CHAIR I WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR BUT IS THERE $140;000 A PIECE? AND THEY NEED EIGHT OF THEM? THE AMENDMENT SHOULD BE 1;120;000 . FOR YOU JUST CLARIFY THAT? I’M SORRY DID I MISS THAT>>REPRESENTATIVE NELSON: ON PHONING A FRIEND FROM THE COLLEGES.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: OKAY. SO>>>>[MULTIPLE VOICES.]>>CHAIR BERNARDY: WHO DO WE HAVE WITH US WITH AN L>>TESTIFIER: YES. MME. CHAIR MY NAME IS STEPHEN FOR NORTH HENNEPIN COMMITTEE COLLEGE. REPRESENTATIVE NELSON IS CORRECT. WE HAD ESTIMATES FOR OUR CHILLERS ARE COMMITTEE COLLEGE OF $140;0 00 EACH. [INAUDIBLE] HAD OUR NUMBER WE ACTUALLY WENT BACK OUTAND GOT AN ACTUAL PRE-DESIGN COULD THE NUMBER CAME IN AND SURVEYED ARE ISSUES AND OF THE PREVIOUS [INAUDIBLE] BECAUSE IT’S REAL BIG BUT THE TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] TO REDO THE WHOLE CAMPUS BECAUSE THEY ARE [INAUDIBLE] 50 YEARS OLD IS$911;000. THAT INCLUDES THE INSULATION; THE LABOR AND THE ACTUAL REPLACEMENT OF THE COOLING TOWER CHILLERS>>REPRESENTATIVE KLEVORN: THANK YOU FOR GETTING THOSE ECONOMIES OF SCALE. I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE KENT WHEN HE GAVE ME A TOUR OF THE FACILITY HE OFFERED ME TO SHOW THE BOILERS SO THANK YOU FOR THAT TOUR OF YOUR FACILITY.>>TESTIFIER: ABSOLUTELY.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR>>REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR:>>HOUSE SPEAKER HORTMAN: WITH THE COMMITTEE’S PERMISSION AND THE CHAIRS PERMISSION I LIKE TO MAKE A ORAL AMENDMENT TO HOUSE FILE 2225 I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND LINE 1.6 AND 1.12 TO CHANGE 140;000 TO 911;000.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: IS EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THAT MOTION? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY; AYE. [CHORUS OF AYES.] THOSE OPPOSED SAY; NAY. THE AMENDMENT IS APPROVED.>>[GAVEL]>>CHAIR BERNARDY: SO PROCEED>>REPRESENTATIVE NELSON: MME. CHAIR; THAT’S ESSENTIALLY THE BILL. REPLACES 50-YEAR-OLD CHILLERS TO INCREASE EFFICIENCY AND IN THE LONG RUN WILL BE SAVING MONEY FOR THE COLLEGE.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: OKAY. SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO RENEW MEMBERS; ANY QUESTIONS? REPRESENTATIVE NORNES>>REPRESENTATIVE NORNES: ADAM CHAIR I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK ONE QUESTION I GUESS . I ASSUME THAT THIS WAS NOT INCLUDED IN MINNESOTA STATE HEAPR REQUEST FOR THE SESSION? IS THAT IN THERE SOMEWHERE WERE IS THAT IN ADDITION TO THAT?>>REPRESENTATIVE NELSON: I ASKED THAT QUESTION WHEN I CAME IN. . THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE STATE OVERALL COLLEGE AND HE SAID; THEIR GOAL DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH MONEY THEY GET FROM THE BONDING BILL. [INAUDIBLE] HENNEPIN COMMITTEE COLLEGES NUMBER ONE PRIORITY AND SO THE Y SAID THEY ARE GOING TO TRY TO FUND A NUMBER OF PRIORITIES THROUGH ALL THE SCHOOLS BUT IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH MONEY THE STATE THEY GET IN THE BONDING BILL.>>REPRESENTATIVE NORNES: OKAY; THANKS>>CHAIR BERNARDY: IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY? OKAY. WITH THAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO RENEW YOUR MOTION REPRESENTATIVE KLEVORN>>REPRESENTATIVE KLEVORN: NO.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR WOULD YOU LIKE YOUR NEW MOTION>>REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR: I WOULD LIKE TO RENEW MY MOTION HOUSE FILE 225 THE PAST AND REFER TO WAYS AND MEANS. AS AMENDED.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY; AYE. [CHORUS OF AYES.] OPPOSED? SPEAK AIRES THE MOTION PASSES.>>[GAVEL]>>[GAVEL]>>CHAIR BERNARDY: [INAUDIBLE]>>[APPLAUSE]>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THAT WAS DEFINITELY HOLDING IT BACK FROM REPRESENTATIVE OVER THERE. I WANT SAY THE NAME BECAUSE I WAS CALLED OUT YESTERDAY ABOUT MY SNEEZE. REPRESENTATIVE NELSON PROCEED. HOUSE FILE 226.>>REPRESENTATIVE NELSON: MME. CHAIR ANITA MOTION.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE VANG WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE A MOTION FOR HOUSE FILE 226 TO BE REFERRED TO WAYS AND MEANS.>>REPRESENTATIVE VANG: YES; SO MOVED>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE VANG MAKES A MOTION TO REFER HOUSE FILE 226 TO WAYS AND MEANS.PROCEED REPRESENTATIVE NELSON>>REPRESENTATIVE NELSON: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. AND MEMBERS;HOUSE FILE 226 HAS GIVEN THE HEAPR FROM HENNEPIN COMMITTEE COLLEGE AS CHAIR BERNARDY SAID THE BOILER IS REPLACEABLE TO UPGRADE THEM. PUTTING MORE EFFICIENT BOILERS AND FOR COST EFFICIENCY AND AGAIN THIS LEGISLATION THE LANGUAGE IS THE SAME WAY WAS HAD LAST YEAR’S BILL. THE COST HAS GONE UP ON THIS. FROM 800;000 TO 1.9 MILLION AND IF WE CAN I WOULD LOVE TO AMEND THE LANGUAGE SO THAT IT REFLECTS THE CORRECT COST>>CHAIR BERNARDY: OKAY. COULD YOU TELL US WHAT THE COST IS?>>REPRESENTATIVE NELSON: IT’S ONE POINT MILLION FROM 800;000. THAT WOULD BE AGAIN LINE 1.6 AND 1.12.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: IS THERE AN Y DISCUSSION? REPRESENTATIVE QUAM.>>REPRESENTATIVE QUAM: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. THAT’S A RATHER SUBSTANTIAL INFLATION RATE. I ASSUME THAT THEY FOUND OTHER PROBLEMS OR ISSUES?>>CHAIR BERNARDY: MR. KENT>>TESTIFIER: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. REPRESENTATIVE QUAM ; AS I SAID BEFORE WITH A COOLING TOWER AND CHILLERS; WHEN RE PRESENTATIVE OLSON CAN TO THE COLLEGE WE OF OUR BEST ESTIMATE ON WHAT THE NUMBERS WOULD BE. WITH OUR OWN INTERNAL [INAUDIBLE] WE ACTUALLY GOT ENGINEERS OUT TO DO A PRE-DESIGN THAT WE ESTIMATED LOW. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN INNER THOUSAND DOLLARS AND 1.9 MILLION IS NOT STRICTLY [INAUDIBLE] INFLATION COULD JUST I AM A RESIDENT EXPERT ON THE CAMPUS AND YET HE PAID TO GET ENGINEERS TO COME OUT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY DO THE PROJECT OF CONVERTING HIS 50-YEAR-OLD BOILERS INTO MINIATURE MORE EFFICIENT BOILERS. THE COST; TO $1.9 MILLION. IT IS TOTALLY NOT REPRESENTATIVE NELSON’S FALL. WE GAVE HIM NUMBERS OUT THERE AT THE TIME BUT WHEN IT COMES THERE WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND GET ACTUAL TO GET THE NUMBERS RIGHT AND WORKING WITH OUROFFICE WE GOT THE PRE-DESIGN AND A CANNOT AT $1.9 MILLION. IT’S NOT INFLATION.>>REPRESENTATIVE QUAM: I JUST WANT TO SAY MME. CHAIR SINCE WE WERE ARE ACTUALLY CHANGING THAT’S WHY I REQUESTED MORE INFORMATION SO THAT WE ACTUALLY COULD SAY WE ARE PROPERLY DISCUSSED AND UNDERSTAND WHY THE CHANGE WAS MADE.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE QUAM. REPRESENTATIVE NORNES>>REPRESENTATIVE NORNES: HOW MANY BOILERS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?>>TESTIFIER: MA’AM>>CHAIR BERNARDY: YOU ARE DOING FINE>>TESTIFIER: WE HAVE THREE BOILERS AT THE TIME. I PICTURES IF YOU WANT TO SEE THEM . I CAN CIRCULATE THEM BUT WE OF THREE NOW. THEY’RE TOTALLY INEFFICIENT FOR BRINGING IN MORE MONEY TRYING TO KEEP THE CAMPUS THESE OLD BOILERS THAN IF WE GOT THESE REPLACEMENT BOILERS [INAUDIBLE] AND THEN WE WILL [INAUDIBLE]>>REPRESENTATIVE NORNES: MME. CHAIR I’M JUST SHOCKED SOMETIMES OF THE COST OF SOME OF THESE REPLACEMENTS THAT WE OF 1.9 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY JUST TO HEAT A BUILDING. WE COULD BUILD A BUILDING FOR THAT PRICE. I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND THE EFFICIENCY BUT I’M NOT SURE IT’S FAULTY OR GIVING PROBLEMS EVEN THOUGH THE THERE 50 YEARS OLD BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT’S NOT SOMETHING I CAN DECIDE. I GUESS ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE IF YOU CAN ANOTHER 10 YEARS OUT OF THEM ARE PROBABLY IS A WAY TO GO BUT YOU DON’T WANT TO BE CALLED IN MINNESOTA. SO I’M NOT GOING TO OBJECT TO IT. JUST 1.9 IS A LOT OF MONEY.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: ANY OTH ER DISCUSSION? SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO RENEW YOUR MOTION TO A SORRY. REPRESENTATIVE VANG>>REPRESENTATIVE VANG: I WOULD LIKE TO RENEW MY MOTION HOUSE FILE – SORRY – IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE INDICATING WITH ME ON A? IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO FIGURE THAT OUT. SO;>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE JABBAR>>REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR: I WOULD LIKE TO RENEW MY AMENDMENT>>CHAIR BERNARDY: COULD YOU SAY THAT BETTER OR IS THAT OKAY TO DO. OKAY WHY DON’T YOU CLARIFY.>>REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR:>>STAFF: MME. CHAIR THE ORAL AMENDMENT IS PAGE 1 LINE 6 DELETE IT OR THOUSAND AND INSERT; 1.9 MILLION PAGE 9 LINE 12 DELETE IT OR THOUSAND AND INSERT 1.9 MILLION.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY; AYE. [CHORUS OF AYES.] OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES.>>[GAVEL]>>CHAIR BERNARDY: NOW WE CAN MOVE OVER TO YOUR>>REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR: I WOULD LIKE TO RENEW MY MOTION TO MOVE HOUSE FILE 226 TO WAYS AND MEANS.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? REPRESENTATIVE DANIELS>>REPRESENTATIVE DANIELS: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. I JUST HAD A THOUGHT OCCURRED TO ME WHEN WERE GOING FROM THREE IN THE SIX UNITS AND I’M SURE WAS PROBABLY SOME PROJECTIONS OF SAVINGS AND WHATEVER; 10 YEARS VANDERBILT TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION BY CHANCE TO SEE HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE FOR THE PAYBACK ON THAT?>>REPRESENTATIVE NELSON: IF YOU LOOK ON THE SHEET I HANDED OUT ESTIMATE 25% PER YEAR SAVINGS . SO TO YET ANOTHER DOLLAR COST AND I CAN GET THAT AND ASKED THEM TO GIVE YOU THAT THE COSTS ARE RIGHT NOW TO HEAT WE SAY 25% [INAUDIBLE] IN A SHORT TIME. SO THAT’S WHAT IS ABOUT TO COME IS MAKING SURE WE SAVE MONEY FOR THE STATE IN THE LONG RUN.>>REPRESENTATIVE DANIELS: THANK YOU FOR THAT. SOMETIMES THEY TAKES A GOOD 10 YEAR PAYBACK BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE ROUGHLY 4 FIV E PROBABLY TOPPED IS NICE TO SEE A SAVINGS AT THE END OF THE RAINBOW HERE. SO APPRECIATIVELY I DO NOT GET THAT HANDOUT AM SORRY I DO NOT SEE TO MY PACKET.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NOW AND ASK REPRESENTATIVE VANG TO RENEW YOUR MOTION WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT WOULD BE GREAT; THANK YOU>>REPRESENTATIVE VANG: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO RENEW MY MOTION HOUSE FILE 226 BE REFERRED TO WAYS AND MEANS WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND AS AMENDED.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY; AYE. [CHORUS OF AYES.] OPPOSED? THE MOTION PREVAILS.>>[GAVEL]>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE NELSON.>>REPRESENTATIVE NELSON: A THANK YOU; MEMBERS.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE DANIELS YOU ARE UP. WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE. MR. DANIELS. REPRESENTATIVE DANIELS.>>REPRESENTATIVE DANIELS: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS REPRESENTATIVE BRIAN DANIELS AND I HAVE A REQUEST IS ACTUALLY IN THE HEAPR REQUEST BUT WE WANTED TO MAYBE DO A DUAL PATH JUST IN CASE SOMETHING GETS CUT BACK IN THE HEAPR REQUEST. THIS IS THERE FIRST PRIORITY AS WELL. I HAD [INAUDIBLE] IN 2017 IT DID I GET APPROVED AND 17 OR 18 SO THIS MY THIRD TRY. I’M HOPING THE THIRD TIME IS THE CHARM. A WORK REPAIR. DATA MAJOR RENOVATION TO THE MUST OF BEEN ABOUT 2013 OR 14 TO BEEN A NICE ADDITIONAL FRONT. LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. WE’VE HAD A NUMBER OF MEETINGS IN THIS AREA. THAT ROOF IS FINE BUT IT’S THE ONE THAT THEY DID NOT REMODEL THE REST OF THE BUILDING AND IT’S TOUGH TO ATTRACT NEW STUDENTS WHEN YOU’VE GOT FIVE YELLOW PILLS IN THE HALLWAY TRYING TO COLLECT THE WATER COULD I HAVE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR SOUTH-CENTRAL [INAUDIBLE] OF BOTH IN MANKATO AND FAIRBAULT DR. PARKER REPORTED A BELIEVER WAS A 16% INCREASE IN ENROLLMENT AND SHE’S BEEN IN THE HIGHER DOUBLE DIGITS FOR TWO YEARS IN A ROW. SO WE HAVE BEEN PREACHING YOU HEAR ABOUT NOT HAVING TO GO TO A FOUR-YEAR COLLEGE AND TWO-YEAR DEGREE CAN GET YOU A REALLY GOOD JOB. SO JUST A SHOUT OUT THERE. 14 DONATION FOR TECHNOLOGIES AND YOU GOT ENROLLMENTS GOING ON. JUST A REALLY GOOD POSITIVE PROGRAM GOING THERE. WHAT I’M REQUESTING TODAY IS JUST THE AMOUNT OF 1.1 MILLION $405;000 TO FIX THE OLDER PART OF THE BUILDING ROOF; HELPED STOP THE LEAKS FROM COMING IN.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: ANY DISCUSSION BY MEMBERS? ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC IN THE AUDIENCE; THAT WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY? REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR>>REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR: AS YOU SAID THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE’VE HAD TO MAKE THIS REQUEST FOR THIS. MME. CHAIR; THANK YOU. YOU HAVE CHECKED UP WITH INFLATION?>>REPRESENTATIVE DANIELS: REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR THE AMOUNT WHEN THE BILL WAS GETTING DRAFTED [INAUDIBLE] AND ASKED IF THE AMOUNT WAS STILL THE SAME FROM LAST YEAR AND THEY SAID IT IS. NOTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE LAST YEAR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE DANIELS WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE YOUR BILL BEFORE THE COMMITTEE?>>REPRESENTATIVE DANIELS: YES MME. CHAIR.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: GO AHEAD>>REPRESENTATIVE DANIELS: I REQUESTED TO MOVE IT TO WAYS AND MEANS FOR POSSIBLE INCLUSION>>CHAIR BERNARDY: SO REPRESENTATIVE JOHN DANIELS WOULD LIKE TO MOVE HOUSE FILE 520 2B REFER TO WAYS AND MEANS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY; AYE. [CHORUS OF AYES.] OPPOSED? THE MOTION PREVAILS.>>[GAVEL]>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR. BY CHAIR PRYOR WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE.>>REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. AND>>CHAIR BERNARDY: WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE YOUR BILL.>>REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR: YES. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE HOUSE FILE 1610 TO BE REFERRED TO WAYS AND MEANS.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: PROCEED.>>REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. TO THE COMMITTEE; THANK YOU FOR HEARING HOUSE FILE 16102 BUILD TWO RENOVATE THE CHILDCARE FACILITY UNIVERSITY MINNESOTA COLLEGE OF EDUCATION AND HUMAN DOME. THESEE BANK OF THE TWIN CITIES CAMPUS. I ALSO WANT TO THANK REPRESENTATIVE LILLIE FOR CO-AUTHORING THIS BILL’S LEGISLATION AND TO SUPPORT FOR THIS COMMITTEE. THE STATE REQUEST FOR THIS PROJECT IS 20 MILLION IN GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS. TOTAL PROJECT COST IS 42 MILLION THE ADDITIONAL 14 FROM NONSTATE SOURCES. AFTER HEAPR THIS IS THAT UNIVERSES TOP BONDING PRIORITY FOR THE 2019 SESSION. AT THE U OF M SENSITIVE CHIL D DEVELOPED UNDERGRADUATE AND GRADUATE SINCE THE EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION AND DEVELOPMENT OF PSYCHOLOGY STUDENTS WORK ALONGSIDE AWARD-WINNING FACULTY MAKE DISCOVERIES IN AREAS INCLUDING BRAIN DEVELOPMENT RESILIENCY ADOLESCENT SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND AUTISM. AND AS WE’VE HEARD OF THE COMMITTEE ALREADY CONVICTED OF CHILD DEVELOPMENT HOUSING NUMBER ONE DEVELOPMENT OF PSYCHOLOGY PROGRAM IN THE NATION. THE PROPOSED BILL IS NEEDED FOR THE INSTITUTE OF CHILD A MOMENT TO MAINTAIN ITS REPUTATION AND RANKING. I ALSO HAVE TO BUT MENTIONED THAT I BROUGHT MY BABIES TO THIS BUILDING. FOR RESEARCH.>>[LAUGHING] I KNOW IT’S A WONDERFUL INSTITUTE THAT WE HAVE THIS WONDERFUL RESOURCE MINNESOTA AND WE RELY ON THE [INAUDIBLE] RESEARCH THAT COMES FROM THIS AS A STA TE WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU DO THERE. I WILL TURN OVER T O MY TESTIFIERS AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU IF YOU COULD SAY YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND WHO YOU ARE WITH. I’D APPRECIATE THAT.>>TESTIFIER: MY NAME IS BETHANY GONZALES AND I AM WITH THE INSTITUTE OF CH ILD>>CHAIR BERNARDY: CAN YOU SPELL YOUR LAST NAME FOR US; PLEASE?>>TESTIFIER: BETHANY>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU.>>TESTIFIER: CHAIR BERNARDY AND MEMBERS THE COMMITTEE THANK FOR HAVING ME TODAY MY NAME IS BETHANY AND I’M FROM WELLS MINNESOTA. I CAME TO THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA IN THE FALL OF 2016 AS A SOPHOMORE BECAUSE I COMPLETED COLLEGE IN THE SCHOOL CLASSES FOR COLLEGE CREDIT. SO I STARTED THE YEAR AHEAD. IN MY 30 YEAR [INAUDIBLE] WILL GRADUATE THIS MAY WITH A DEGREE IN EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION WHEN DECIDING ON A COLLEGE I WAS LOOKING FOR A PLACE THAT OFFERED BOTH CHILD PSYCHOLOGY AND EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION IS AREAS OF STUDY. THROUGH MY COLLEGE SEARCH I FOUND THAT VERY FEW COLLEGES IN THE STATE AND EVEN SURROUNDING STATES OFFER BOTH PROGRAMS THAT ALTHOUGH I ALSO WE DECIDED TO MAJOR IN EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION; HAVING A STRONG FOUNDATION IN CHILD PSYCHOLOGY WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. I WAS ALSO VERY GLAD TO HEAR THAT THE INSTITUTE OF CHILD DEVELOPMENT IS NUMBER ONE IN THE NATION. WHICH WAS A FACTOR THAT HELP ME MAKE UP MY MIND. AFTER GRADUATION IN SPRING I WILL BE ENTERING INTO THE MASTERS OF EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION PROGRAM ALSO OFFERED TO THE INCIDENT OF CHILD DEVELOPMENT. I HOPE TO TEACH KINDERGARTEN OR FIRST GRADE BUT EVENTUALLY I LIKE TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL TO FURTHER MY EDUCATION IN CHILD PSYCHOLOGY AND BECOME A SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGIST. I AM ALSO AN HONOR STUDENT IN A BEEN WORKING ON MY SENIOR THESIS PROJECT THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL YEAR I AM CREATING A SCHOOL FOR SOCIAL EMOTIONAL CRITIC QUICK TO PUT CURRICULA THAT HE [INAUDIBLE] RESEARCH ON SOCIAL EMOTIONAL CURRICULA CURRENTLY FOCUSED ON CREATING NEW CURRICULA AND ISSUED ITS EFFECTIVENESS BUT SOCIAL EMOTIONAL CURRICULUM IS NOT BEING IMPLEMENT IT IN SCHOOLS BECAUSE THE BARRIER TO DOING SO IS A LARGE. ALTHOUGH I CAME UP WITH IDEA MY PROJECT INDEPENDENTLY THE FACULTY AND STAFF AT ITB HAS BEEN HELPING ME EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. CURRENTLY; I’M STUDENT TEACHING IN [INAUDIBLE] LABORATORY SCHOOLS WHICH IS HOUSED INTHE INSTITUTE OF CHILD DEVELOPMENT. THE TEACHERS GENERALLY CARE ABOUT THE CHILDREN AND THE STUDENT TEACHERS COULD I FEEL SO AGAIN SO MANY MENTORS AND VALUABLE EXPENSES THIS SEMESTER . THROUGH STUDENT TEACHING. A BEEN GIVEN CHANCES TO RETEACH AND BE IN CHARGE OF THE CLASSROOM ALSO BEEN SUPPORTIVE AND TAKING TIME TO REFLECT WITH MORE EXPERIENCED TEACHERS. ALTHOUGH I HAVE SOM E ENJOYED MY STUDENT TEACHING EXPENSES; IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I SPENT A SET AMOUNT OF TIMES IN A BUILDING. I’VE ONLY HAD ONE CLASS THERE BECAUSE THERE ARE NO CLASSROOMS TO HAVING A SPACE FOR ALL OF OUR COSTUMES TO BE HOUSED IN ONE PLACE AS HIS PLAN FOR THE NEW BUILDING; WOULD ALLOW US TO MEET MORE FELLOW STUDENTS AND FACULTY AND GET THE MOST OUT OF OUR EXPERIENCES. THANK YOU.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.HER NEXT TESTIFIER STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND WHO YOU’RE WITH.>>TESTIFIER: MY NAME IS COLLEEN DOYLE. I’M WITH [INAUDIBLE] OF CHILD DEVELOPMENT CHAIR BERNARDY REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE BY THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE MY STORY. I’M IN MY FIFTH YEAR OF MY PHD TRAINING AT THE INSTITUTE OF CHILD DEVELOPMENT AND AS REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR MENTION CINEMA PROGRAM IN THE COUNTRY FOR CHILD PSYCHOLOGY. THE CENTRAL QUESTION DRIVING MY TRAINING IN RESEARCH OF IS HOW DOES MENTAL ILLNESS “MY RESEARCH INTEGRATES OF ELEMENTAL PSYCHOLOGY BIOLOGY AN D NEUROSCIENCE BUT INITIALLY I NEVER ENVISIONED MYSELF AS A SCIENTIST OR RESEARCHER. I GREW UP IN EAGAN AND LEFT MINNESOTA TO GO TO COLLEGE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO ) TO BECOME A POET AND I WAS INTERESTED IN POETRY AS A WAY TO EXPLORE THE COMPLEXITY MYSTERY OF THE HUMAN CONDITION. DURING MY TIME THERE I STARTED READING PAPERS ON COGNITIVE DEPARTMENT AND NEUROSCIENCE IF I MYSELF THINKING; WOW. THERE’S MORE NEURONS IN THE BRAIN THAT ARE STARS IN THE MILKY WAY AND SOMEHOW THEY’LL WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE US WHO WE ARE. THAT’S POETRY. I MADE THE DECISION TO SWITCH CAREERS AND I KNEW I WANTED TO TRAIN TO BE A CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST IN ORDER TO MAKE A REAL WORLD IMPACT WITH MY RESEARCH. I WANT TO TRAIN WITH THE BEST RESEARCHERS IN THE FIELD AND I DISCOVERED THAT PROGRAM WAS IN MY BACKYARD AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA. THE INSTITUTE OF CHILD DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM IS RICH AND HISTORY. IT’S THE BIRTHPLACE OF THE VOLATILE PSYCHOLOGY AND IT CONTINUES TO PRODUCE THE TOP RESEARCHERS AND CLINICAL SCIENTISTS IN OUR FIELD. WHEN I APPLY TO GRADUATE SCHOOL RECEIVED OFFERS FROM SEVERAL OTHER HIGHLY HIGHLY PRESTIGIOUS CHILD PSYCHOLOGY PROGRESS BUT I CAME TO THE INSTITUTE OF CHILD ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT ATTRACTS THE BEST FACULTY WITH ENVIRONMENT RICH WITH COLLABORATION; NEW IDEAS AND EXCITING WORK. I MUST SAY; I CAME DESPITE THE PITIFUL PHYSICAL CONDITION OF ITS BUILDING IT WAS THE WORST AMONG THE PROGRAM I SAW. I ALSO CAME BECAUSE THE INSTITUTE HAS A TRADITION OF SUPPORTING STUDENTS AND CONDUCTING THEIR OWN INDEPENDENT RESEARCH. MY RESEARCH IS AIMED AT UNDERSTANDING HOW A MOTHER STRESSED DURING HER PREGNAN CY IMPACTED DEVELOPMENT OF A CHILD’S BRAIN. THROUGHOUT PREGNANCY BABIES DEVELOP 250;000 BRAIN CELLS EVERY MINUTE ON AVERAGE IN THIS PIECE OF DRAMA CONTINUES INTO THE FIRST THREE MONTHS AFTER BIRTH. THIS IS CLEARLY A TIME OF DYNAMIC CHANGE IN VULNERABILITY FOR CHILD BRAIN AND YET WE KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT PRENATAL BRAIN DEVELOPMENT AND HOW IT IMPACTS TRAJECTORIES OF BRAIN AND BEHAVIORAL DEVELOPED AFTER BIRTH. IN MY STUDY I SEE WOMEN FIVE TIMES DURING PREGNANCY AND MEASURED THE DEVELOPED OF THE FETUSES BRAIN CONTROL OVER ITS HEART RATE THAT MOTHERS ALSO TOLD ME ABOUT THE STRESS THEY’RE EXPERIENCING THE MEASURE THE ACCUMULATION OF CORTISOL STRESS HORMONE IN THEIR HAIR. AFTER THE BABY IS BORN TO BRING THE MOTHER AND HER BABY TO THE INSTITUTE FOR SEVERAL MORE RESEARCH SESSIONS. THE QUALITY OF OUR BUILDING IS AN IMPEDIMENT TO MY RESEARCH. IN THE TESTING I USE EVEN THOUGH TEST CONTROL BECOMES A REGULATE WE HAVE TO SWEEP THE ROOM TO BE SURE THERE’S NO [INAUDIBLE] TO BOTHER THE BABIES AND WITH THE RAINS HEAVILY WE HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE RO OM FLOODING. LUCKILY; THE LAST TIME THIS HAPPENED WITH THE HIGH-END [INAUDIBLE] TRACKING CORBIN I USED IT THE INSTITUTE NEED TO THE BUILDING WHILE NOT BENEFIT ESL GRADUATES AND;IT WILL BENEFIT THE MANY STUDENTS OF THE INCIDENT TRACKS TO MAKE IT EASIE R FOR STUDENTS IN THE FUTURE TO DECIDE TO TRAIN HERE. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH BUT MEMBERS COME ANY QUESTIONS? REPRESENTATIVE JOLENE>>REPRESENTATIVE LIEN: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR I SEE IN THE BILL LANGUAGE THIS PROJECT INCLUDES THE DEMOLITION OF PLACEMENT OF A 68 BUILDING ADDITION IT IS THE BUILDING CURRENTLY IN ITS ORIGINAL CONDITION; ORIGINAL I DON’T KNOW; STRUCTURED? HAVE THERE BEEN IMPROVEMENTS ADDITIONS TO THE BUILDING?>>CHAIR BERNARDY: WE WILL GET YOU ACCURATE INFORMATION.>>REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR: TO THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. TO BUT IF YOU COULD SAY YOUR NAME AND BRIEFLY ANSWE R OR REPRESENTATIVE TRAN’S QUESTION THAT WOULD BE EXCELLENT.>>TESTIFIER: YES I NAME IS LEAGUE AND [INAUDIBLE] THE 19 67 BUILDING IS EXACTLY AS WAS IN 1967. THERE’S BEEN NO WE HAVE NOT HAVE MONEY TO DO MODIFICATION. THIS IS WHAT WE CALL NEW WING. THE OTHER WING IS FROM 1915. IT WAS RENOVATED LAST IN 1967.>>REPRESENTATIVE LIEN: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. THAT’S PRETTY AMAZING REALLY. IT MAKES ME THINK A LITTLE BIT I DON’T KNOW THE EXACT YEARS IN AGE EVERYTHING I THINK THERE’S A GREENHOUSE FACILITY ON THE ST. PAUL CAMPUS BUT I THINK THE LEGISLATURE PUT THE MONEY INTO RECENTLY AND HAVE BEEN WAITING ON THAT FOR THINK OVER A DECADE. SO HEARING ABOUT ANTS AND WATER ISSUES IN BABIES I MEAN; THIS IS MOR E THAN LONG OVERDUE. SO I CERTAINLY HOPE WE COULD GET THIS DONE WITH A GOOD STRONG BONDING BILL THIS YEAR. THANK YOU.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE LILLIE>>REPRESENTATIVE LILLIE:>>HOUSE SPEAKER HORTMAN: REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO MANY OF US ARE IN CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND WE ARE DEFINITELY HAPPY HAPPILY CARRY YOUR EFFORT FORWARD BUT I BELIEVE THIS IS PART OF THE GOVERNOR’S PROPOSALS AND OF COURSE THAT ALWAYS HELPS AND DEFINITELY THIS WILL BE A PRIORITY FOR THE STATE AND THANK YOU. NEED TO HEAR THAT WERE NUMBER ONE SHOULD I HAVE TO SIT NEXT TO THIS HOCKEY GUY FROM ST. CLOUD AND HE KEEPS RUBBING IT IN ABOUT GO ROCKETING SO GLAD WERE NUMBER ONE WITH YOUR AREA; SO THANK YOU.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE QUAM>>REPRESENTATIVE QUAM: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. TO THE GRADUATE STUDENT IN YOUR TESTIMONY HOW FAR BEFORE BIRTH ARE YOU LOOKING TO RESEARCH FOR HUMAN DEVELOPMENT?>>TESTIFIER: MME. CHAIR; REPRESENTATIVE QUAM THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION>>CHAIR BERNARDY: WHAT IS IT DR. GO AHEAD AND TELL ME YOUR NAME AGAIN>>TESTIFIER: [INAUDIBLE] DOYLE>>CHAIR BERNARDY: LET’S MAKE SURE WE KEEP OUR QUESTIONS PERTINENT TO THE PURVIEW WHAT WERE SUPPOSED TO DO IN OUR COMMITTEE. SO BRIEFLY>>TESTIFIER: I WILL NOT GEEK OUT AND WE BEGIN ISSUING CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM AT 20 WEEKS GESTATION WE CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THE FIELD DORMANT UNTIL THE END OF PREGNANCY>>REPRESENTATIVE QUAM: THANK YOU>>CHAIR BERNARDY: SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY FINAL COMMENTS?>>REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR: THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT AND CARING OUR BILL. HOUSE FILE NUMBER 1610>>CHAIR BERNARDY: SO YOU RENEW YOUR MOTION OF THE>>REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR: I WOULD LIKE TO RENEW MY MOTION THIS BE PASSED AND REFER TO WAYS AND MEANS>>CHAIR BERNARDY: HOUSE FILE 1610 IS – EXCUSE ME – I SCREWED THAT UP. I’M ON THE FIRST PAGE. SORRY. 1610 REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR WILL MOVE HER HOUSE FILE 1610 TO BE REFERRED TO WAYS AND MEANS. I GOT THE RECORD THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY; AYE. [CHORUS OF AYES.] OPPOSED? THE MOTION PREVAILS.>>[GAVEL]>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU. WE HAVE WITH USREPRESENTATIVE STEPHENSON WELCOME TO OUR COMMITTEE. I WILL MOVE THAT HOUSE FILE 1420 4B REFER TO WAYS AND MEANS. WELCOME TO OUR COMMITTEE. REPRESENTATIVE STEPHENSON AND>>REPRESENTATIVE STEPHENSON: THANK YOU. THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. TO THANK YOU FOR HEARING THIS BILL WHICH HAS TO DO WITH ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL CRISIS OCCURRING IN THE COUNTRY AND IN MINNESOTA . TODAY I SUSPECT MOST MEMBERS ARE AWARE THAT OUR COUNTRY IS THE MIDDLE OF A STUDENT LOAN CRISIS. TOTAL STUDENT DEBT IN THE UNITED STATES RECENTLY SURPASSED $1.5 TRILLION PASSING CREDIT CARD DEBT. THERE’S MORE STUDENT LOAN DEBT IN THE COUNTRY NOW THAN CREDIT CARD DEBT WERE ALL LOAN TO BE THE ONLY PARTLY HELD AT IS LARGER THAN HIS MORTGAGE DEBT IN OUR COUNTRY AND OF COURSE THIS IS ALSO A PROBLEM RIGHT HERE IN MINNESOTA. WE HAVE 775;000 STUDENT LOAN BORROWERS IN MINNESOTA OLD $27.1 BILLION IN DEBT AND IT’S A RAPIDLY GROWING PROBLEM. HUNDRED AND 27% INCREASE IN STUDENT DON’T MINNESOTA SINCE 2007 THROUGH 2017 AND THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM THAT AFFECTS ONLY THE METRO. THIS A PROBLEM ACROSS THE ENTIRE STATE. IN FACT; 51% OF MILLENNIAL’S IN GREATER MINNESOTA HOLD STUDENT DEBT AND I’M SURE THAT ALL THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE AS I HAVE HAVE HEARD STORIES OF PEOPLE PUTTING OFF MAJOR LIFE DECISIONS; CHOOSING NOT TO BUY HOUSE OR BY A CAR OR MOVEOUT OF THEIR PARENTS HOME OR HAVE CHILDREN BECAUSE OF THE MASSIVE FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY THEIR HIGHER EDUCATION DEBT. THIS BILL ATTEMPTS TO HELP STUDENTS WERE STRUGGLING WITH STUDENT LOAN DEBT; HAVE PROTECTIONS AGAINST ABUSIVE PRACTICES BY STUDENT LOAN SERVICERS AND JUST BROADLY NAVIGATE THE WORLD OF STUDENT LOAN DEBT. THIS A BIG PROBLEM BECAUSE OF INCREASINGLY COMPLEX WORLD AND THE CONSEQUENCESFROM MISSTEPS ARE HUGE BUT I’LL JUST GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE. THERE IS A PROGRAM IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CALLED PUBLIC SERVICE LOAN FORGIVENESS WHICH ALLOWS STUDENTS OR BORROWERS WHO SERVE IN THE PUBLIC EITHER WORKING FOR THE GOVERNMENT WORKING FOR NON-FOR PROFIT I F THEY WERE FOR 10 YEARS THEY COME THEIR STUDENT LOANS FORGIVEN BUT IT’S IMPORTANT PROGRAM THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ATTEMPTING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF RIGHT NOW BUT IT’S ACTUALLY RELATIVELY NEW PROGRAM. THE PROGRAM ONLY BEGIN IN EXISTENCE IN 2007. SO THE PEOPLE FIRST PEOPLE ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM BUT FOR FORGIVENESS AND 2017 AND ACCORDING TO THE APARTMENT OF EDUCATION REPORT THAT CAME OUT IN 2018; THE 29;000 PEOPLE WHO APPLIED FOR FORGIVENESS; 90% WERE REJECTED. OF THOSE; 20% OF THE OBJECTIONS HAD TO DO WITH FILING ERRORS. MORE THAN 70 PRESENT DO NOT ME ET REPRISAL PROGRAM REQUIRES PEOPLE ARE BORN IN THE WRONG PAYMENT PLAN WITHOUT A JOB THAT MEANT THE PUBLIC SERVICE OR COMMENT ABOUT IT IN SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THE LIFE PLANS THE PEOPLE MA DE BASED ON THIS PROGRAM ONLY TO FIND THAT THEY MADE A MISTAKE TO DEVASTATING CONSEQUENCES. ONE OF THE IMPORTANT PROVISIONS OF THIS BILL IS ESTABLISHING AN OFFICE WITHIN A PART OF COMMERCE WERE STUDENT LOAN ADVOCATES. SOMEONE ON THE SIDE OF THE BAR HELPING STUDENTS NAVIGATE STUDENT LOAN SYSTEM AND A REPAYMENT OPTIONS AND BEING A COP ON THE BEAT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS AN ABUSE GOING ON BY THE SERVICERS WHO WORK IN THIS FIELD. HAVING SAID THOSE THINGS I HAVE A FEW TESTIFIERS TODAY SIGNED UP AND I THINK THEY CAN PROBABLY PUT A FINER POINT THAN I EVER COULD. SO ALTERNATE OVER TO THEM AT THIS TIME>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND WHO YOU ARE WITH AND IF YOU’RE WITH YOURSELF THAT JUST FINE; TOO. IF IT’S A COMPLICATED THEM; PLEASE SPELL IT FOR THE TAPE>>TESTIFIER: MY NAME IS HEATHER . I AM HERE FROM I TEACH AT [INAUDIBLE] WINTHROP HIGH SCHOOL IN WI NTHROP MINNESOTA. GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU MME. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS HEATHER ; HIGH SCHOOL SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHER AND AM ALSO PRESIDENT OF OUR LOCAL UNION. RECENTLY; I REACH OUT TO MY 15 HOURS ASKING ABOUT HOW STUDENT LOANS IMPACT THEIR LIVES AND THE LIVES OF THEIR FAMILIES IN OUR DISTRICT THE BASE SALARY FOR TEACHERS WAS $37;000. WE HAVE TEACHERS PAYING ANYWHERE FROM $300 A MONTH TO $1000 A MONTH IN STUDENT LOANS . BASICALLY ANOTHER CAR PAYMENT OR EVEN A MORTGAGE PAYMENT. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR TEACHERS? MANY ARE PUTTING OFF LIFE DECISIONS LIKE BUYING A HOME OR HAVING CHILDREN AND OTHERS ARE WORKING SO I CAN OR THIRD JOBS TO MAKE ENDS MEET. THESE MASSIVE DEBT LOADS DON’T JUST AFFECT THE BORROWERS. TEACHERS TOLD ME THAT THEIR PARENTS ARE TRYING TO DO WITH THEY CAN TO EASE THE BURDEN FOR THEIR ADULT CHILDREN. IN 1995 I GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE THE SOCIAL STUDIES DEGREE. AT THAT TIME [INAUDIBLE] THE PRINCIPAL COULD THROW ROCK OUTSIDE THE WINDOW OF THE SCHOOL AND HIT 10 SOCIAL SERVICE. I STRUGGLED FOR YEARS TO FIND A LONG-TER M JOB. [INAUDIBLE] I MOVED TO ALASKA TO TEACH AND FINALLY I WENT BACK TO SCHOOL TO BE CERTIFIED TO TEACH SPECIAL EDUCATION. THE GOOD NEWS IS I LOVE BEING A SPECIAL ED TEACHER. THE BAD NEWS; DURING THOSE YEARS I STRUGGLED TO FIND A PERMANENT JOB I DEFERRED BY LOANS AND ADDED MORE INTEREST TO DEBT I CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY BACK. I’VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THESE LOANS PAID OFF. I CONSOLIDATED BY LOANS AND AM IN THE FEDERAL PUBLIC SERVICE LOAN FORGIVENESS PLAN THE IDEA THAT WAS GIVEN THAT IT WILL CONTINUE TO WORK IN MY SCHOOL AND MAKE PAYMENTS FOR 10 YEARS AND MY LOANS WILL BE FORGIVEN. LITTLE DID I KNOW THAT DOING WITH MY LOAN SERVICERS WOULD TAKE THE TENACITY OF A BULLDOG TO HAVE BY LOANS FORGIVEN THROUGH THE FEDERAL PROGRAM I NEED TO MAKE 120 QUALIFYING PAYMENTS. I CALLED TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH A CALCULATED BY NUMBERS CORRECTLY SO I’VE BEEN IN THE PROGRAM FOR THREE YEARS SO I SHOULD’VE 36 QUALIFYING PAYMENTS. NOPE. THEY ONLY RECORDED NINE. AFTER TALKING TO SEVERAL MORE PEOPLE THEY TOLD ME I NEEDED TO FILL OUT A NEW FORM. I ASKED THEM IF I MISS SOME INFORMATION WHEN I FILLED OUT THE FORM THE FIRST TIME. I WAS TOLD THEY DON’T LET BORROWERS KNOW THE INFORMATION. I FILLED OUT THE FORM AGAIN AND AGAIN MORE ERRORS ON THEIR END. THEY SAY I’VE ONLY MADE 10 PAYMENTS NOW THESE LOAN SERVICES ARE PREYING ON BORROWERS HOPING WE WOULD JUST GET TIRED OF FIGHTING AND GIVE UP. WHEN MY TEACHERS WAS ONE OF THE 98% THAT GOT TURNED DOWN AFTER SHE HAD PAID FOR 10 YEARS AND SHE JUST GAVE UP. THAT’S WHY THE STUDENT BILL OF RIGHTS IS SO IMPORTANT. IT WOULD GIVE TEACHERS LIKE ME AN ADVOCATE TO HELP ME IN GETTING THE RUNAROUND TO MY LOAN COMPANY BUT IT WOULD HELP MINNESOTANS KNOW THEIR RIGHTS WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR LOANS AND OFFER ASSISTANCE WHEN THERE’S A PROBLEM. MOST IMPORTANT; IT WOULD REQUIRE LOAN SERVICERS TO BE LICENSED AND TO HAVE TO ADHERE TO STANDARDS OR FACE CONSEQUENCES. WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HEARING MY TESTIMONY AND LISTENING TO MY EXPERIENCES WITH STUDENT LOANS.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF>>TESTIFIER: THANK YOU MME. CHAIR MY NAME IS>>CHAIR BERNARDY: COULD YOU PLEASE FILL YOUR LAST NAME?>>TESTIFIER: YES.EONIES. MME. CHAIR MEMBERS AGREE MY NAME IS ERIN 50 HER HIGH SCHOOL SOCIAL STUDIES TEACHER A SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHER IN BABBITT MINNESOTA. I’M A PROUD ALIBI OF THE UNIVERSITY MINNESOTA’S DULUTH AND CURRENTLY PURSUING MY MASTERS DEGREE IN SPECIAL EDUCATION THROUGH BEMIDJI STATE. THIS QUITE JET IS VERY SMALL AND ALSO INTO MY HAVE SCHOOL ON THE MONITOR. IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TEACHING FULL-TIME IN MY HOMETOWN I KNEW TO PURSUE A SECOND LICENSE. OF THIS CHOICE I’VE ONLY ONE REGRET. MY DEBT LOAD. I WAS SPEAKING T O YOU TODAY TO STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF TACKLING THE EDUCATION DEBT CRISIS A MULTI- MMASSIVE MULTIBILLION-DOLLAR PROBLEM. RIGHT NOW; HAVE A TOTAL STUDENT LOAN DEBT OF $44;650. EACH MONTH I MAKE A PAYMENT OF $192.59 AN D REVISED PROGRAMS AT EACH PAYMENT CREDITS AROUND $20 TOWARD MY LOAN PRINCIPAL. THE OTHER 170 GOES TO INTEREST. ONE OF THE BIGGEST FRUSTRATIONS IS I DID EVERYTHING RIGHT TO COLLEGE. I DON’T KNOW WHAT ELSE I COULD OF DONE TO LOWER MY LOAN BALANCES? RECEIVED PLENTY OF SCHOLARSHIPS BUT I GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL WITH 35 CREDITS ATTEND THE PUBLIC IN STATE UNIVERSITY AND WORKED THROUGH OUT COLLEGE. MY PARENTS MADE TOO MUCH FOR ME TO RECEIVE PROGRAMS OR OTHER ASSISTANCE BUT TOO LITTLE TO SIMPLY CUT A CHECK. BEFORE COLLEGE GRADUATION I HEARD ABOUT A PROGRAM THAT CAN HELP THE STUDENT LOAN DEBT FOR TEACHERS AND OTHER PUBLIC EMPLOYEES. SO I DID SOME DIGGING IN LARGE PART DUE TO THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE FROM A UNION EDUCATION MINNESOTA’S DEGREE DEBT PROGRAM. I JUMPED AT THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN UP FOR THE PUBLIC SERVICE LOAN FORGIVENESS PROGRAM ONCE I SETTLED INTO M Y JOB BEGINNING THE TENURE CLOCK OF PAYMENTS ON MY THEN BALANCE OF $32;000. AFTER MY SECOND YEAR OF TEACHING THEM I DECIDED TO RETURN TO COLLEGE FOR MY MASTERS IN SPECIAL EDUCATION WHICH MEANT MORE LOANS. WAS I TOOK OUT THESE NEW LOANS THEY STOP MAKING PAYMENTS WITH MY OLD LOANS APPARENTLY; THEY AUTOMATICALLY DIFFERENT REPAYMENTS ON LOANS WHEN THE LOAN IS DISPERSED. AFTER MY FIRST THREE SEMESTERS IN BEMIDJI PROGRAM ELECTED TO PAY FOR MY TUITION WITHOUT RESORTING TO LOANS. IT WAS HARD AND LED TO THE PAIN I AGREED MORE INTEREST ON THE LOANS I THOUGHT I HAD I HAD GONE TO THE PUBLIC SERVICE LOAN FORGIVENESS PROGRAM. I DO MY DUE DILIGENCE AND RESEARCH STUDENT LOANS WORTH DURING COLLEGE AND CONTINUE TO TEACH FULL-TIME WHILE TAKING MASTERS CLASSES. THE INFORMATION RELATED TO STUDENT LOANS WHEN IT’S EVEN AVAILABLE IS OVERWHELMING AT BEST. THE CITIZENS OF MINNESOTA NEED SOMEONE ON THEIR SIDE WHO CAN DISSEMINATE ACCURATE INFORMATION AND HOLD STUDENT LOAN SERVICES ACCOUNTABLE. PLEASE; SUPPORT HOUSE FILE 1424 THE STUDENT LOAN SYSTEM IS IMMENSELY COMPLEX IN THE LOAN SERVICES KNOW IT RHO AND USE IT TO THEIR ADVANTAGE.SA. THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. AND MEMBERS THE COMMITTEE.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND SPELL IT IF YOU DON’T THINK WE WILL BE ABLE TO.>>TESTIFIER: SARAH GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SARAH UP IN A MENISCAL SOURCE IS A TEACHER THE TASK THE DISTRICT FOR 20 YEARS. TO GET WHERE I AM TODAY I’VE A OBTAIN A BACHELORS; MASTERS AND SPECIALIST AGREES. MY EDUCATIONAL JOURNEY AND THE OPPORTUNITY THATT IS CREATED FOR ME TO BECOME A CRITICAL PART OF WHO I AM AS A TEACHER. UNFORTUNATELY ALL THIS EDUCATION CAME WITH A REALLY HEFTY PRICE TAG; PRICE I CAN ONLY BE WITH STUDENT LOANS. MOST OF THE MOTHER TO SPUNKY DAUGHTERS WERE SEVEN AND THREE. THERE ARE ACTUALLY THE ONES MOTIVATED BY HAS BEEN TRAVIS AND I TO GET HER FINANCIAL AFFAIRS ON ORBIT WE WANT THEM TO GROW HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP WITH MONEY. SO I HEARD ABOUT THE DEGREE [INAUDIBLE]; TO OUR DISTRICT I JUMPED AT THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN MORE. AFTER ATTENDING THE SESSION PROVIDED BY MY UNION EDUCATION MINNESOTA; IT BECAME CLEAR THAT THE PUBLIC SERVICE LOAN FORGIVENESS PROGRAM WAS A WAY TO GO. I WAS HOPEFUL OPTIMISTIC AND FULLY COMMITTED TO MAKING THIS WORK. I TOOK THE FIRST STEP APPLIED FOR A DIRECT CONSOLIDATION WITH AN INCOME BASE PAYMENT PLAN ON NOVEMBER 7; 2018. I OPTED TO KEEP [INAUDIBLE] IS MY LOAN SERVICER BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE EASIER TO STAY WITH THE SAME COMPANY. BUT THEN I GOT MY FIRST PIECE OF CAN MEDICATION BAC K FROM ABOUT MY APPLICATION THREE WEEKS LATER. INSTEAD OF HELPFUL IN CLARIFYING INFORMATION; BUT I RECEIVED W AS CONFUSING MISLEADING AND BAFFLING. THE LOAN SUMMARY SHEET OF VARIOUS COLUMNS WITH DIFFERENT REPAYMENT PLAN ESTIMATES. THE COLUMN THAT MADE ME GASP IN FEAR WITH THE TITLED INITIAL PAYMENT CHAD ESTIMATES AS HIGH AS A WHOPPING 2008 AND $75. TRAVIS AND I WERE SHOCKED AND AGREED WE WOULD MAKE IT WORK IF IT MEANT WE WOULD BE FREE OF MY STUDENT DEBT IN 10 YEARS. THEN I LOOKED AT THE FINE PRINT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE. INITIALED PAYMENT DO NOT MEAN A ONE-TIME ONLY FIRST- TIME PAYMENT WE ASSUMED IT WAS THE ESTIMATED LOWEST POSSIBLE AMOUNT TO BE REQUIRED TO PAY EACH MONTH. APPARENTLY; THIS WAS DIFFERENT THAN THE $500 MAXIMUM PAYMENT LISTED IN ANOTHER COMPETENT WAS HUGE APPROPRIATION WAS TRYING TO MISLEAD ME AND THAT’S WORTH THE FRUSTRATION CAN. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I DID ALL MY DAUGHTER TO SEE ON MY FACE THE FINANCIAL STRESS AND WHAT DID I WANT THEM TO SEE EDUCATION AS A GATEWAY TO THE FUTURE NOT AS SHACKLES OF INSURMOUNTABLE DEBT. I DECIDED TO USE MY RESOURCES AND EMAILED TH E DEGREES [INAUDIBLE] AT EDUCATION MINNESOTA. THEY WERE CONFUSED AND FRUSTRATED WITH THIS COMMUNICATION FROM AS WELL. HOWEVER THEY WERE ABLE TO GIVE ME SOME HELP IN GUIDING QUESTIONS BUT FINALLY ON DECEMBER 15 I FOUND OUT THAT STARTING THE VERY NEXT DAY I WOULD OWE $750 A MONTH WAS TWICE WHAT I WAS ALREADY PAYING. MY HUSBAND IS ALSO A TEACHER AS LOAN IS $450 A MONTH BUT WE FELT LIKE WE WERE DROWNING. WE DECIDED OUR BEST COURSE OF ACTION WAS FOR ME TO APPLY FOR A FORBEARANCE WHICH WOULD ALLOW ME TO STOP MAKING PAYMENTS FOR ONE YEAR. IT WAS APPROVED BUT NOT WITHOUT M ORE ISSUES; MORE HASSLES AND MORE HEADACHES FROM . I FEEL OH $48;000 TO 70;000 WITH INTEREST WHEN IT’S ALL SAID AND DONE. IT WOULD BE PAID OFF BY 2037. STUDENT LOAN BORROWERS LIKE ME NEED THE GOVERNMENT ON OUR SIDE TO PROTECTORS BY LOAN SERVICES AND LIMITED PLEASE; SUPPORT HOUSE FILE 1424 SO WE HAVE A STUDENT LOAN WATCHDOG MAKING SURE THOSE WHO TAKES TO LOANS OF STANDARD CONSUMER PROTECTIONS FROM MISINFORMATION CUSTOMER SERVICE FAILURES AND DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TO I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WE HAVE A SCHEDULE FOR 330 ON THIS BILL AND WE MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS SO NOT SURE WE TOLD YOU TO TO THREE MINUTES IF YOU KEEP YOUR MARCH 2 MINUTES THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.>>TESTIFIER: MME. CHAIR MEMBERS THE COMMITTEE MY NAME IS SASHA I’M A SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHER AT ROOSEVELT HIGH SCHOOL MINNEAPOLIS. I’VE TAUGHT THE PAST 10 YEARS AND I CURRENTLY TEACH 10TH GRADE. LIKE SO MANY TEACHERS I’M WONDERING IF THE STRESS WE FEEL A DAILY BASIS IS WORTH IT. IN ADDITION TO THE INCREASING CHALLENGES WE FACE IN PUBLIC EDUCATION I’M IN DEBT $123;000. FROM STUDENT LOANS. I’VE NO IDEA I COULD EVER REPAY THIS LOAN. WHEN I GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE 10 YEARS AGO AT A MUCH SMALLER LOAN BALANCE BUT MY FIRST LAWN SERVICE TO MEET MY MONTHLY PAYMENT WOULD BE $900 AND DOLLARS ON A FIRST YEAR TEACHING SALARY. I TOLD HIM I CANNOT AFFORD THE PAYMENT AND ASK ABOUT OTHER OPTION WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS $900 AND THAT WAS THAT. THEY TOLD ME THAT IF I WILL PAY LESS IT WOULD NOT COUNT IT WOULD COUNT AS A QUALIFYING PAIN. I OFFERED TO PAY AS MUCH AS THREE OF DOLLARS A MONTH BUT THEY STILL SAID; NO. AFTER FAILING TO MAKE A QUALIFYING PAYMENT BEGIN TO GARNISH MY WAGES. WAS ABLE TO GET INTO REHABILITATION [INAUDIBLE] TO REAL REHABILITATION MAKING [INAUDIBLE] NINE MONTH PERIOD AFTER COMPLETING REHABILITATION MY SERVICES TOLD ME THEY HAD NO RECORD OF THESE ADDITIONAL PAYMENTS AND DOES NOT COME. I’M ABOUT TO SHOW WHAT FREQUENT HABITS LIKE ON MY LOAN SERVICER BIT I CALL THE NUMBER THAT ARE BEEN GIVEN TO TALK ABOUT MY PLAN AND THE PERSON ON THE OTHER END OF THE PHONE TELLS ME; NO ONE THERE CAN HELP ME AND THEY GIVE ME A SECOND NUMBER. I CALLED THE SEC OND NUMBER AND A THIRD AND THAT A FOURTH NUMBER AND INEVITABLY BACK TO THE FIRST NUMBER THAT I CALLED AND NO ONE IS ABLE OR WILLING TO HELP. I’VE SINCE LEARNED THAT IF I LOAN SERVICE TOLD ME 10 YEARS AGO I COULD’VE BEEN IN INCOME DRIVEN REPAIR AND PRINT I MAY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO AFFORD BY LATE PAYMENT FROM THE START. NO LONGER ELIGIBLE FOR TEACHER LOAN FORGIVENESS PLAN BECAUSE OF THIS AS ALL THE QUESTIONS I COULD ASK THAT IF THEY TOLD ME THE TRUTH OF MY LIFE WILL BE MUCH DIFFERENT THAN IT IS TODAY. I CAN AFFORD MY OWN APARTMENT BUT LITTLE MY OWN HOME BASED ON LOW PAYMENTS REQUIRED TO BE. I DREAM OF FOSTERING CHILDREN IN THE BALANCE OF MY FURNACES ARE STABLE THAT’S NOT AN OPTION. I KNOW NOT ALONE IN THE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE EXPENSES LIKE MINE. THIS BILL PUT IN PLACE SO MANY THINGS THAT COULD’VE HELPED ME. LOAN SERVICE ARE REQUIRED TO KEEP RECORDS AND 50 STANDARDS FOR SHARING WITH OTHERS LIKE ME OR SOMEBODY THERE TO PROVIDE ME WITH INFORMATION ABOUT DIFFERENT REPAYMENT OPTIONS BY LIFE WOULD BE DIFFERENT NOW. PLEASE; SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANK YOU.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. REPRESENTATIVE STEPHENSON DID YOU HAVE ANY REMARKS OR MOVING ON TO QUESTION>>REPRESENTATIVE STEPHENSON: I’M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE>>REPRESENTATIVE TO HAVE A FISCAL NOTE ON THIS BILL TO DAVIDSON REPRESENTATIVE LUCERO THE FISCAL NOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. SO [INAUDIBLE] THE DISCUSSION WILL BE THERE>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE LUCERO>>REPRESENTATIVE LUCERO: SO WHEN I’M READING LINE; WAS IT UNDER THE DUTY SECTION 2 LINE 2.21 RECEIVED REVIEW AND ATTEMPT TO RESOLVE COMPLAINTS FROM BORROWERS. SO WHAT IS THE CURRENT PROCESS IF THERE’S A BAR THAT HAS A COMPLAINT IT NOW; WHAT I S IT [INAUDIBLE] WERE WITH A GO TO?>>REPRESENTATIVE STEPHENSON: IT’S A GREAT QUESTION I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WONDERING EXACTLY. WHO DO THEY GO TO? THAT’S WHAT THE BILLS ABOUT PIAZZA GIVING THEM A POINT PERSON TO GIVE FILL. WE HEAR PEOPLE TRYING TO REACH THAT PART OF EMERSON REACHING THE ATTY. GEN. MANY OF THE STATE TO BRING LAWSUITS AGAINST SERVICERS BUT THERE ISN’T A POINT PERSON OUR GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW FOR THAT CONDU CT AND THAT’S EXACTLY THE BILLS TRYING TO GET OUT.>>REPRESENTATIVE LUCERO: ONE MORE QUESTION. ON LINE TO THE WELL BEGINNING ON SECTION 6; SUBDIVISION ONE AND RED SERVICER MUST NOT DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY ATTEMPT TO MISLEAD BORROWERS SUBDIVISION TWO MUST NOT ENGAGE IN THE UNFAIR A SUBSTANTIVE PRACTICE OR MISREPRESENT OR OMIT MATERIAL INFORMATION. MUST NOT KNOWINGLY THOSE LIMITS APPLY TO LOAN PAYMENTS IS NOT KNOWINGLY OR NEGLIGENTLY PROVIDE INACCURATE INFORMATION. WAS NOT KNOWINGLY OR NEGLIGENTLY MAKE A FALSE STATEMENT OR OMISSION OF MATERIAL FACT IT MUST NOT VIOLATE IN ANY OTHER FEDERAL STATE OR LOCAL LAWS INCLUDING LAWS RELATED TO FRAUDULENT COURSE OF OR DISHONEST PRACTICES. SO AS I’M READING THIS LIST AND THINKING TO MYSELF THESE THINGS IF NOT MOST;; AT LEAST ALL OR MOST OF THEM ALREADY AGAINST A LOT ESPECIALLY THE LAST ONE. SUBDIVISION EIGHT. WHY DO WE HAVE A PROVISION IN THE BILL THAT SAYS YOU CANNOT VIOLATE A FEDERAL STATE OR LOCAL LAW?>>REPRESENTATIVE STEPHENSON: MME. CHAIR REPRESENTATIVE LUCERO; I THINK THAT NUMBER ONE; WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS A LAWYER WE TALK ABOUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT GIVING THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERC E THE RESPONSIBILITY OF POLICE BEHAVIORS OF STUDENT LOAN SERVICERS THAT YOU WANT TO TRY GIVE THEM A BROAD MANDATE TO GO AFTER THE CONDUCT THAT YOU FIND OBJECTIONABLE AND SO MAKING IT CLEAR THAT THEY HAVE THIS WHAT WERE ASKING THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE TO BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK>>REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY WOULDN’T THIS BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS WITHIN MNSCU? THEY’RE THE ONES BENEFITING BY HAVING STUDENTS PAY TO GO THERE AND THERE’S ALL KIN DS OF COUNSELORS THERE. I MEAN I JUST DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS THE BEST ROUTE? SETTING UP SOMETHING NEW IT SEEMS LIKE IT’S A PARALLEL TO THE BANKING INDUSTRY. IF YOU’RE GETTING A LOAN MAY BE THAT LOAN FROM THE BANKING INDUSTRY I THINK LEAVE IT TO THAT? IT JUST VERY VERY PUZZLING IT SEEMS TO ME BUT THEY SOUND LIKE INDEPENDENT OPERATORS. YOU ARE SAYING THEY MADE A SERVICER MAY ADOPT PROCEDURES. THE SERVICER; IF THEY REGULATED [INAUDIBLE] INFORMATION ARE THE INDEPENDENT OPERATORS? ARE THEY EMPLOYEES UNDER COMMERCE? WHERE DO THEY DO YOU KNOW?>>REPRESENTATIVE STEPHENSON: JUST VERY INITIALLY TO CORRECT [INAUDIBLE] I THINK WE’RE TALKING ABOUT WHO BROUGHT MOST OF THE FEDERAL LOANS INTO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS UNDER PRESIDENT BUSH NOT PRESENT OBAMA TO AS YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WHO THEY IS GOING TO SOME CONFUSES WHO YOU’RE REFERRING TO. STUDENTS ABSORB THE PART OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE NOR ARE THEY PART OF THE MNSCU SYSTEM. THEY ARE INDEPENDENT COMPANIES TO CONTACT WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO SERVICE LOANS. [INAUDIBLE] THAT ARE SERVICES THAT OPERATE WITH PRIVATE STUDENT LOANS HAVE NOTHING TO THE GOVERNMENT OR MNSCU>>REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK: I GUESS WHY WOULD WE SPELL OUT EXACTLYWHAT THEY MUST DO THEN? I MEAN; I DON’T SEE AT THE NEGOTIATING ON BEHALF OF THE CLIENT; NEGOTIATING WITH THE LOAN PROVIDER>>REPRESENTATIVE STEPHENSON: WHEN YOU SAY DAY IN THAT SENTENCE>>REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK: MANAGER; THE LOAN SERVICER.>>REPRESENTATIVE STEPHENSON: THE SERVICES MME. CHAIR; SO ACTUALLY I’M GLAD YOU MADE THAT BECAUSE THERE IS A AMENDMENT THAT WE TRIED TO GET READY IS NOT QUITE READY YET BUT WILL HAVE IT IN THE PART OF THAT IS GREAT SOME AFFIRMATIVE DUTIES FOR THE SERVICES. SO WE ARE WORKING ON THE.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE JEN BANGS>>REPRESENTATIVE VANG: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE STEPHENSON FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS BILL. I’M JUST LOOKING FOR MY VIEWPOINT INCREASE PUBLIC AWARENESS [INAUDIBLE] TO ASSIST JUST WONDERING IF THERE IS A OUTREACH PLAN? I WANT TO MA KE SURE THIS IS A GREAT RESOURCE FOR A MUCH-NEEDED RESOURCE AND THAT IT’S WELL KNOWN TO MANY PEOPLE NEEDED>>REPRESENTATIVE STEPHENSON: I THINK THAT’S A VERY GOOD POINT AND I THINK THAT IT SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT PUTTING ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE INTO MAKE SURE WERE REACHING OUT TO OUR COMMUNITIE S IN PARTICULAR PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COLLEGE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THEIR FAMILY. MY WIFE HAD THAT EXPERIENCE AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT YOU MADE DIFFERENT DECISIONS ABOUT THE CULTURE WOULD’VE GONE TO WENATCHEE TO FINANCE IT SHE HAD SOME GUIDANCE AND SOME MORE INFORMATION THAT HOPEFULL Y THE STUDENT LOAN APPLICANT CAN PROVIDE. SO I THINK THAT’S VERY IMPORTANT.>>REPRESENTATIVE VANG:>>CHAIR BERNARDY: HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION OR REPRESENTATIVE JOLENE>>REPRESENTATIVE LIEN: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. NOT A QUESTION BUT JUST A COMMENT. REPRESENTATIVE STEPHENSON I APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING THIS HOUSE FILE FOR 1424 ON THE GRASS SIT HERE AND TO THE ILLS OF CORPORATIONS OR STATE CORPORATIONS ARE EVIL OR ANYTHING. I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT THAT .. CORPORATIONS ARE GOOD PARTNERS OUR COMMUNITIES. DEPENDENT BUSINESSES TO MAKE CAPITALISM GO AROUND AND THAT’S HOW THIS COUNTRY FUNCTIONS BUT WE SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THAT CORPORATE BUREAUCRACY AND DEMOCRACY GOVERNMENTS ARE GOOD AND CORPORATIONS ARE BAD BY CORPORATE FOR ACCURACY CAN JUST BE AS CUMBERSOME AND COMPLEX IS GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRACY. SO I THINK IT’S GOOD THAT WE LOOK FOR WAYS TO HELP PEOPLE NAVIGATE THAT TRAIN OF CORPORATE VIOXX IS PASSED AROUND THE ISSUE OF STUDENT LOANS WERE AS YOU SAY IS BEHIND MORTGAGE DEBT THE NUMBER ONE SOURCE OF PERSONAL DATA IN THIS COUNTRY. SO THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS FOR. AND HELPING PEOPLE.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE STEPHENSON GERMANY CLOSING TO BE WITH ANYONE IN A PUBLIC WAY TO TESTIFY ON THIS BILL? WE DO HAVE A PERSON THAT WOULD LIKE TO. WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF>>TESTIFIER: THANK YOU MME. CHAIR MY NAME IS PAT TO THE LEGISLATIVE REPRESENT FIRST BE AFSCME COUNCIL FIVE. I WANT TO COME DOWN NEXT IS MY SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL. IT’S A BILL THAT WILL VERY MUCH HELP WORKING FAMILIES PARTICULARLY ONES LIKE MY OWN. MY WIFE HAS APPROXIMATELY $80;000 WITH OF STUDENT DEBT AND SHE’S PARTICIPATING IN THAT FEDERAL LOAN FORGIVENESS PROGRAM AND AT THE END OF IT; IT TURNS OUT THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE SERVICING HER LOANS IS THAT WE’VE NOT PAID ENOUGH IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT TO HAVE AN OPTION TO PURSUE SOME JUSTICE . THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING WHERE BECAUSE SO MANY OF OUR MEMBERS WORK IN PUBLIC SERVICE AND WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO LOAN PROGRAM LIKE THAT SOMETHING THAT IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE VERY USEFUL FOR US SO THANK YOU MME. CHAIR.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU. WELL; GERMANY CLOSING COMMENTS REPRESENTATIVE STEPHENSON>>REPRESENTATIVE STEPHENSON: BEHRINGER I KNOW YOU’RE SHORT ON TIME AN D I WOULD JUST SAY IT’S A GREAT BILL AND ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT>>CHAIR BERNARDY: I WILL RENEW THE MOTION THAT HOUSE FILE 4024 BE REFERRED TO WAYS AND MEANS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY; AYE. [CHORUS OF AYES.] OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES>>[GAVEL]>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. REPRESENTATIVE HOWARD IS ON HIS WAY. HE JUST ACROSS THE HALL. SO THAT IS A GOOD PLACE FOR THEM TO GET HERE QUICKLY FROM. I THINK THE WAY TO MOVE THE BILL TO A WHEN REPRESENTATIVE HOWARD GETS HERE BUT WE COULD START WITH THE TESTIMONY IF EVERYBODY AGREES WITH THAT YOU ARE ON THE BILL? DO YOU WANT TO BE UP HERE UNTIL HE COMES? THEN JUST MOVE THE BILL. OKAY SO PLAN B IS A GOOD OPTION. REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR IS GOING TO AN AUTHOR IN THE BILL SHE’S GOING TO MOVE THE BILL AND GET STARTED IN HIM REPRESENTATIVE HOWARD IS ABLE TO GET HERE FROM HIS OTHER COMMITTEE HE WILL TAKE OVER. SO REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR TO REVISE CHAIR PRYOR WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE YOUR BILL>>REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR:>>CHAIR BERNARDY: WE ARE MOVING IT TO BE LAID OVER HOUSE FILE 1844 BE LAID OVER>>REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR: MME. CHAIR I MOVE HOUSE FILE 1844 BE LAID OVER FOR POSSIBLE INCLUSION.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND WHO YOU ARE WITH. THAT WOULD BE GREAT>>TESTIFIER: FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS AMY AND AM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF MINNESOTA INDEPENDENCE COLLEGE AND COMMUNITY. THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR FOR SUBSIDY AND FOR THE SPORT OF [INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU TO THE CO-AUTHOR OF THIS BILL REPRESENTATIVE BERNARDY; PRYOR; NORNES; SANDSTEDE HUOT ALBRIGHT AND ZERWAS CHAIR BERNARDY AND MEMBERS YOU LIKE TO SINCERELY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY AND FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF MIC C. YOUR CONTINUED INVESTMENT IS HAVING A TRULY INCREDIBLE IMPACT ON THE LIVES OF OUR STUDENTS GRADUATES FAMILIES AND CITIZENS ACROSS MINNESOTA. PREVIOUSLY US AS MINNESOTALIFE COLLEGE. BUT; LIKE I MENTIONED IN OUR LAST HEARING WE CHANGED OUR NAME TO MINNESOTA INDEPENDENT COLLEGE AND COMMUNITY TO BETTER ENCOMPASS OUR FULL EDUCATIONAL MISSION SEVEN STUDENTS AUTISM AND LEARNING DIFFERENCES. WE BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE DESERVES THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCOVER THEIR FULL POTENTIAL AND LIVE A VIBRANT LIFE. MIC C IS UNLIKE ANY OTHER HIGHER ED INSTITUTION.. WE ARE THE ONLY PROGRAM OF ITS KIND IN THE COUNTRY AND WE ARE EXTREMELY PROUDTO MAKE MINNESOTA A LEADER IN TAKING INITIATIVES TO PROVIDE HIGHER EDUCATION TO OUR STUDENT POPULATIONS INCLUDING THOSE WITH LEARNING DIFFERENCES AND ON THE AUTISM SPECTRUM. MINNESOTA HAS INSTITUTIONS ACROSS THE STATE OF THE DO A GREAT JOB OF EDUCATING STUDENTS TO FILL THE PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL ASPIRATIONS. BUT SOME STUDENTS NEED ADDITIONAL EDUCATION AND OTHER AREAS THAT THEY AND THEIR LIVES IN ORDER TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO RETAIN SKILLS THEY NEED TO REACH THEIR FULL POTENTIAL. WE PRIMARILY SERVE MINNESOTA STUDENTS. WE ARE KNOWN NATIONALLY AND WE HAVE EDUCATED STUDENTS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND ALSO EDUCATED STUDENTS INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS. WE ARE PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THE STUDENTS OF COME FROM OUT-OF-STATE AND OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE CHOSEN TO STAY IN MINNESOTA BECOMING ACTIVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS CONTRIBUTING TO MINNESOTA’S ECONOMY.OUR INSTITUTION HAS BEEN PROVIDING EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT CANNOT BE FOUND ANYWHERE ELSE BUT COLLEGE-AGE STUDENTS FOR OVER 23 YEARS. WE ARE VERY EXCITED AND PROUD TO SHARE THE WHILE THE RESEARCHER RETURN ON INVESTMENT THAT WOULD SAY THAT THE IMPACT WE HAVE ON THE STATE OF MINNESOTA IS STRONG. NOT ONLY IS YOUR INVESTMENT IN HIM MIGHT CC ANSELMO LIVES OF STUDENTS WITH AUTISM AND LEARNING DIFFERENCES IN THE FAMILIES BUT FOR EVERY DOLLAR YOU INVEST IN MIC C IT PROVIDES A $72 RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THE STATE. YOU CAN FIND THE FULL RESEARCH IN A SUMMARY FOLDER. A RECENT CONFERENCE OF STUDY ON YOUNG ADULTS WITH AUTISM SPECTRUM DISORDERS REVEALED THAT IN THE YEARS FOLLOWING HIGH SCHOOL OVER HALF DO NOT HAVE PAID EMPLOYMENT AND WERE NOT ENROLLED IN POSTSECONDARY VOCATIONAL TRAINING OR COLLEGE. WE ALSO KNOW THAT APPROXIMATELY 50;000 INDIVIDUALS WITH AUTISM SPECTRUM DISORDER TURNED 18 EACH YEAR IN THE UNITED STATES. AT MIC C OUR STUDENTS TAKE UNIQUE THREE YEAR HIGHER EDUCATION PROGRAM TO GAIN THE SKILLS THEY NEED TO GAIN COMPETITIVE EMPLOYMENT WHILE FULFILLING INDEPENDENT LIVES AND CONTRIBUTE BACK TO SOCIETY. THE MIC C COLLEG E PROGRAM ENCOURAGES PERSONAL GROWTH FOR EACH STUDENT TO UNIQUE AND INDIVIDUALIZED PROCESS IN A REAL-WORLD SETTING. OUR APPROACH TO INDEPENDENCE AND LOCATION IS BY TEACHING FIVE AREAS OF COMPETENCY INDEPENDENT LIVING SKILLS; SOCIAL EMOTIONAL SKILLS; VOCATIONAL READINESS AND TRAINING ; HEALTHY LIVING; COMMITTEE CONNECTIONS AND TEAMBUILDING. AFTER GRADUATION QUESTIONS BECOME MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY LIVING PROGRAM TO STAY ACTIVE AND INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY AND ONE ANOTHER THROUGH SOCIAL CALENDAR ARE ABLE TO SEE PROFESSIONAL ASSISTANCE FROM AN ICC PITCH ABOUT THE EXCUSE ME ONE MOMENT AT MS. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AT LEAST A MINUTE OF YOUR TESTIFIER AND WEAVE ANOTHER BILL HERE WE WANT TO HEAR. SO IF YOU COULD WRAP UP SO WE HAVE A MINUTE FOR YOUR TESTIFIER TO BE ABLE TO TESTIFY THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. THANK YOU.>>TESTIFIER: ABSOLUTELY. I WOULD JUST LET CITY GO.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK Y OU.>>TESTIFIER:; SUITED AT MIC C AND HIM FROM INTEGRAL PARKS TO PARTY CAN YOU STADIUM FOR THE RECORD>>TESTIFIER: FOR THE RECORD AND SIDNEY PEARSON. I’M A STUDENT FROM INVER GROVE. EMMA JUNIOR AT MIC C. BEFORE MIC CCI ONLY HAD A FEW FRIENDS AND I HAD A HARD TIME WITH PERSONAL BOUNDARIES. THANKFULLY MY PARENTS FOUND MIC C. I’M GOING TO BE IN GETTING THE SKILLS TO BE EMPLOYED AND LIVE ON MY OWN. I SHARE AN APARTMENT WITH MARIE AND CALEB. THESE CLASSES OF OPEN MY MIND TO NEW THINGS. I LIKE TO LEARN AND I ENJOYALL MY CLASSES. MIC C HAS HELPED ME FIND MYSELF AS A YOUNG ADULT. MIC C HAS TAUGHT ME TO BE MORE INDEPENDENT CONFIDENCE AND FLEXIBLE. DEVELOPING INDEPENDENT LIVING SKILLS IS ONE OF MY BIGGEST GOALS. I AM COOKING MEALS BY MYSELF; DOING MY OWN LAUNDRY AND CLEANING MY APARTMENT. I AM LEARNING HOW TO RIDE THE CITY BUS COULD I’M IN DETAIL CERTIFICATE PROGRAMS SHOULD I FIND IT HARD TO WORK WITH CHALLENGING PEOPLE ; ESPECIALLY IF THERE ARE MY ROOMMATES>>[LAUGHING] I HAVE LEARNED OF FLEXIBILITY WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS IMPORTANT AT THE WORKPLACE. I AM PROUD TO SAY I WAS AWARDED STUDENT OF THE MONTH FOR FLEXIBILITY. I DON’T KNOW WHERE I WOULD BE WITHOUT MIC C. IT FITS MY STRENGTHS. I LIKE TO HAVE A LIST OF TASKS TO COMPLETE AND GO TO WORK TOWARDS. THE STAFF SUPPORT ME. MY PEERS CHALLENGE ME. AND TOGETHER WE ARE LEARNING FROM ONE ANOTHER. I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A LEADER AMONG MY PEERS AND I’M WILLING TO TRY NEW THINGS. LIKE FOR TODAY EXAMPLE; WITHOUT MIC C I WOULD NOT HAVE CONSIDERED SPEAKING IN FRONT OF YOU. AND SHARING MY STORY. LETTING YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MIC C IS IMPORTANT IN MY CLASSES. AND THE HUNDREDS OF STUDENTS THAT WILL FOLLOW MY FOOTSTEPS. BEFORE I GO; I WANT TO INVITE ALL OF YOU TO BE MY GUEST AT THE MIC C GALA; MARCH 23. THE GALA IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE NIGHTS OF THE YEAR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND LISTENING TO MY STORY .. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU MS. PEARSON. TWO MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? REPRESENTATIVE HOWARD YOU DO NOT GET TO TALK ABOUT YOUR BILL BEFORE AND SO MAYBE YOU CAN DO THAT NOW AND MAYBE THAT HAVE CLOSING REMARKS AT THE END IT HAS THAT? BEHOLD THANK YOU CHAIR BERNARDY AND THINGS TO THE COMMITTEE [INAUDIBLE] THREE PLACES AT ONCE AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT MIC C IS JUST A TREASURER GEM. FOR ARGUMENT IN WHICH [INAUDIBLE] THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE STATE. I BE UP TO YOU TO TAKE A TOUR OF MIC C THIS FALL AND JUST YOU CAN SENSE THE POWER THAT MIC C IS PUTTING INTO MINNESOTANS AND AS I’M SURE THE TESTIMONY SHARED THE TRACK RECORD IS JUST REALLY UNBELIEVABLY IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF AND THIS IS A SCHOOL THAT IS DOING SOMETHING INNOVATIVE; UNIQUE AND WE SHOULD BE PROUD OF IT IN MINNESOTA WE SHOULD INVEST IN IT. I REALLY ENCOURAGE THE COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT THIS BILL.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU IS THERE AND WHEN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY? PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF>>TESTIFIER:>>TESTIFIER: MME. CHAIR;; RESIDENT OF ST. PAUL AND MY SON ANDREW IS A 2018 GRADUATE OF THE MINNESOTA INDEPENDENT COLLEGE A ND COMMUNITY. LIKE ALL PARENTS MY HUSBAND AND I WERE CAREGIVERS; CASE MANAGERS AND ADVOCATES FOR SON’S FIRST 18 YEARS OF LIFE. ANDREWS LEARNING DIFFERENCES INCLUDE SLOW PROCESSING SPEED DIFFICULTY INITIATING AND BREAKING DOWN BIG TASKS AND READING SOCIAL SITUATIONS RESPONDING APPROPRIATELY. EARLY ON IT WAS CLEAR THAT A TRADITIONAL ACADEMIC COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY EVEN WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF DISABILITY SERVICES IS NOT A GOOD F IT AFTER HIGH SCHOOL. THIS IS A VERY LONELY AND FRIGHTENING FEELING IS APPARENT. THE PROCESS FOR ALL PARENTS TO FIND POSTSECONDARY OPTIONS FOR THEIR CHILD IS COMPLICATED STRESSFUL AND TIME-CONSUMING. THIS IS TRUE EVEN WITH THE SUPPORT OF SCHOOL COUNSELING DEPARTMENTS. FOR PARENTS OF CHILDREN WITH INTELLECTUAL AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES THAT IT IT’S TERRIFYING WITH THAT TERRIFYING TO THE LESS BECAUSE SCHOOLS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PROVIDE INFORMATION REGARDING POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION UP OPTIONS THAT MIGHT BEST FIT THEIR CHILD’S NEEDS. THAT IS WHY AM THRILLED TO SEE AND TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. REQUIRING THE OFFICE OF HIGHER EDUCATION TO REFORM STUDENTS POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION OPTIONS FOR THOSE WITH INTELLECTUAL AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES AND QUOTATION. WE ARE SO VERY GRATEFUL TO FOUND MINNESOTA INDEPENDENT COLLEGE AND COMMUNITY>>[BACKGROUND NOISE] AND WAS LIVING INDEPENDENTLY WORKING FIVE DAYS A WEEK AND SELF ADVOCATING FOR HIS NEEDS. WITH THE SUPPORT OF THIS BILL; FAMILIES LIKE OURS WILL HAVE THE NECESSARY RESOURCES TO LEARN ABOUT PLACES LIKE MIC C AND HUNDREDS OF OTHER POSTSECONDARY OPTIONS. AND NOT FEEL LIKE A FACE IN THE FUTURE OF YOUR I SINCERELY [INAUDIBLE] DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES. SUPPORTING THEM AS THEY FIND THEIR WAY [INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU VERY MUCH.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. WHAT WE WOULD DO IS GOING TO MEMBER QUESTIONS AND I WANT TO ASK MEMBERS IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET THROUGH BY FIVE OR 10 AF TER WITH THIS BILL IN OUR ADDITIONAL OR DO WE NEED TO SCHEDULE ANOTHER MEETING FOR LATER TH IS EVENING? [INAUDIBLE / OFF MICROPHONE] FIVE OR 10 MINUTES AFTER IT WILL BE ABLE TO FINISH ALL OUR BILLS LET’S PRESS FOUR. OUR COMMITMENT TO GET DONE IN FIVE OR 10 MINUTES AFTER THE SCREENING GET THROUGH ALL THESE BILLS. SO WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVE DANIELS LUCERO AND RUNBECK ANYBODY ALSO WANT TO BE PUT ON THE LIST? GO AHEAD REPRESENTATIVE DANIEL>>REPRESENTATIVE DANIELS: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. I THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO THE GRADUATION LAST MAY AND IT WAS 15 SINCE I BELIEVE YOU GRADUATED ABOUT 10 MINUTES EACH AND JUST A WONDERFUL PROGRAM AND I THOUGHT WAS REALLY NICE. THIS IS REALLY A GOOD THING AND THEN I HAD AT THE END OF THE PROGRAM; SPIRIT CHRISTIANSEN MENTIONED BECAUSE IT DID HELP WITH THE FUNDING SO AFTER THE PROGRAM WAS DONE ONE OF THE DADS WERE THE KIDS GRADUATED CAME OVER TO OUR TABLE AND HE SOUGHT ME OUT AND SAYS THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. I’M MOVING MY SON OUT OF THE BASEMENT TODAY AND HE GIVES ME A FIST PUMP. I KNOW WERE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT NOW.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT REPRESENTATIVE LUCERO>>REPRESENTATIVE LUCERO:>>HOUSE SPEAKER HORTMAN: MY QUESTION IS FOR SUSIE. CITY. I APPRECIATE YOUR TESTIMONY. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT WITH US IN HIS AM LOOKING AT THE OVERVIEW I’M JUST WONDERING IF YOU CAN SHARE WITH US YOUR FAVORITE COURSE WAS OR IS ?>>TESTIFIER: ACTUALLY ALL THEM BECAUSE I LIKE TO LEARN.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THAT’S AWESOME. GOOD ANSWER. MS. RUNBECK REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK>>REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. SO I SEE THIS IS ADDED TO SOME RESPONSIBILITIES OF OFFICE OF HIGHER EDUCATION I JUST WONDEREDIF THERE IS I MEAN IS THERE ITSELF LIKE AN EASY THING TO DO. IT’S DONE. [INAUDIBLE]>>TESTIFIER: THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. MS. GRIMES FROM THE OFFICE OF HIGHER EDUCATION WILL HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO PUT SOME LIGHT ON THE POSITION OF OFFICE OF HIGHER EDUCATION.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE.>>TESTIFIER: MME. CHAIR; PATRICIA GRIMES COMMISSIONER FROM OFFICE OF EDUCATION. [INAUDIBLE] INFORMS STUDENTS AND PARENTS ABOUT THEIR OPTIONS ARE GOING TO COLLEGE AND PAYING FOR COLLEGE AND THIS WOULD ADD TO THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES AND WE THINK THAT’S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO TAKE THAT ON.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU. OKAY ANY CLOSING DID YOU ANOTHER ONE SORRY REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK>>REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. IT DOES MAKE ME WONDER WHY THE WHOLE AREA OF STUDENT LOAN ADVISING AND ALSO COME UNDER THAT. IT SEEMS LIKE IT’S IN KEEPING WITH THE RESPONSIBILITIES ARE. THANK YOU>>CHAIR BERNARDY: OKAY SO THAT WAS OUR LIST COULD I WOULD LIKE REPRESENTATIVE HOWARD WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY CLOSING OF OUR SPIRITS. I’LL BE BRIEF. THANK YOU MEMBERS FOR THE QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU TO THE TESTIFIERS. I REALLY REALLY APPRECIATE IT. MIC C GIVE THIS IS A CHANCE TO FILL THEIR FULL POTENTIAL LEVEL OF EVERYONE DESERVES THE OPPORTUNITY I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT OF HOUSE FILE 1844.. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: I RENEW THE MOTION HOUSE FILE 1844 BE LAID OVER FOR POSSIBLE INCLUSION OUR EDUCATION OMNIBUS BILL. THE MOTION PASSES>>[GAVEL]>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE BIERMAN IS UP NEXT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE. REPRESENTATIVE BIERMAN DO DOES ANYONE WANT TO TAKE PART IN MOVING HIS BILL? REPRESENTATIVE XIONG>>REPRESENTATIVE XIONG: I MOVE HOUSE FILE – SORRY – 1844 8095 AND – SORRY – TO BE BE LAID OVER FOR POSSIBLE INCLUSION FOR POSSIBLE INCLUSION>>CHAIR BERNARDY: BAKERY BUT PLEASE PROCEED REPRESENTATIVE JIM BIERMAN>>REPRESENTATIVE BIERMAN: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. COMMITTEE; BILL NUMBER AND 1895 ESTABLISHES A CONTINUING EDUCATION PROGRAM FOR CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION LICENSING. NOT EVERY HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT WANTS OR NEEDS TO GO TO THE STATE APPOINTED COLLEGE AND WE SHOULD DO A BETTER JOB REPRESENTING BROADER CAREER OPTIONS AND POSSIBILITIES FOR YOUTH. GOOD PAYING JOBS ARE [INAUDIBLE] MANY INDUSTRIES IN THE CAREER AND TECHNICAL PROFESSIONS. A GREAT VALUE OF VOCATIONAL TRAINING AND CAREER TECHNICAL PROFESSIONS OF THE OPERATIVE I SCHOOL LEVEL IS SORELY NEEDED. [INAUDIBLE] A LACK OF QUALIFIED APPLICANTS NOW THE NEED FOR VOCATIONAL PROGRAMS IS REAL AND SCHOOLS ARE SEEKING QUALIFIED TEACHERS. BILL NUMBER 89 FIVE WILL HELP ADDRESS THIS GAP. I HAVE WITH ME TODAY MR. DAN SMITH WAS QUITE A HISTORY IN THIS FIELD AND CAN PROVIDE BACKGROUND AND A LOT OF INFORMATION ON WHERE WE STAND WHERE WE COULD BE GOING.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND WE ARE WITHOUT THE GREAT>>TESTIFIER: THANK YOU MME. CHAIR MY NAME IS DANIEL SMITH AND I’M HERE TODAY SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF HOUSE FILE 1895 ESTABLISHING A CAREER AND DETECT GOING [INAUDIBLE] I AM RETIRED. I REMAIN ACTIVE IN THE CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION COMMUNITY IN BOTH THE STATE AND NATIONAL LEVELS AND MOST RECENTLY PROVIDED CONSULTING SERVICES AND CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION PROGRAMMING FOR THE STATE OF SOUTH DAKOTA AND IOWA. I ALSO SERVE ON THE NATIONAL POLICY COMMITTEE FOR THE MINISTRATION DIVISION OF THE ASSOCIATION FOR CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION. I RETIRED FROM THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION IN 2014 AFTER SERVING FOR NEARLY 15 YEARS AS SUPERVISOR OF THE SECTION OF THAT APARTMENT DURING WITH DOING WITH CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS. AND BEFORE THAT I SERVED 17 YEARS AS A DISTRICT ADMINISTRATOR OF CURRENT TECHNICAL EDUCATION FOR THE NORTH ST. PAUL SCHOOLS AND FOR THE CARVER COOPERATIVES CENTER IN CHARLESTON. CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION MINNESOTA HAS UNDERGONE MANY CHANGES IN THE PAST 15 YEARS. MOST NOTABLY IT’S ALIGNMENT TO PROGRAMMING AND PLANNING THE STRUCTURE OF CONSORTIA THAT INVOLVE BOTH K-12 SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND TWO-YEAR COLLEGES. MINNESOTA IS UNIQUE IN THE NATION MAINTAINING SUCH A STRUCTURE. AND UNDER THIS ARRANGEMENT MANY OPPORTUNITIES HAVE BEEN PROMOTED 12 STUDENTS MAKE THE TRANSITION UNDER HIGH SCHOOL PROGRAMS INTO TECHNICAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS AT THE STATES COMMUNITY AND TECHNICAL COLLEGES. UNFORTUNATE; THE POSITIVE MOVES THAT OCCURRED ON THE MINNESOTA CD CONSORTIA MODEL HAVE BEEN NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY A SHORTAGE OF CTE TEACHERS IN THE STATE’S HIGH SCHOOLS. WHILE THE MINNESOTA LEGISLATURE DIRECTED SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE PROCESS FOR TEACHER LICENSURE IN THE STATE WITH ITS ADOPTION OF A TIERED LICENSURE SYSTEM; INCLUDING PROVISIONS FOR TEACHERS OF CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION; TO ENTER THE FIELD OF TIER 1 OR TIER 2; THEY REMAIN MANY BARRIERS FOR RECRUITING TEACHERS INTO MY SCHOOL CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION PROGRAMMING. MOST NOTABLY THE BACCALAUREATE DEGREE REQUIREMENTS FOR ADVANCEMENT THE TEACHING PROFESSION. AT ONE TIME MINNESOTA TEACHING WILL ALSO REQUIRE PAID EXPERIENCE OUTSIDE OF EDUCATION IN THE FIELD FOR CAREER AND TECHNICAL TEACHERS. WHILE THIS REQUIREMENT HAD ITS CHALLENGES AND RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANT ROLE OF OUTSIDE EXPERIENCE IN GAINING A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF CAREER CONSTANT HOUSE FILE 1895; TOO; RECOGNIZES THE CONTENT KNOWLEDGE CAN BE GAINED THROUGH MORE THAN A COLLEGE CLASSROOM BY ALLOWING THREE OPTIONS TO BE ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CAREER CONTINUING EDUCATION PROGRAM. AN ASSOCIATE DEGREE IN CONTEXT TO THE CONTENT SPECIFIC CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION FIELD AN INDUSTRY RECOGNIZED PROFESSIONAL CREDENTIAL IN A CONTENT SPECIFIC FIELD OR FIVE YEARS OF VERIFIABLE WORK EXPERIENCE IN THE CONTENT SPECIFIC CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION FIELD. ANY OF THESE OPTIONS WOULD BE SUPPLEMENTED BY INDIVIDUALLY DESIGNED COURSEWORK TO ADDRESS ANY OCCUPATIONAL CONTENT NOT REFLECTED IN THE OPTION AND TO ADDRESS THE TEACHING METHODOLOGY REQUIREMENTS REFLECTED IN MINNESOTA RULE 8710 2000 STANDARDS FOR EFFECTIVE PRACTICE FOR TEACHERS AND 87 [INAUDIBLE] CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION DID ALL REQUIRED STANDARDS OF THE PROFESSIONAL EDUCATOR LICENSING AND STANDARDS BOARD WOULD BE MET. THE IDEA OF IDENTIFYING AN INDIVIDUALLY DESIGNED PATHWAY TO TEACHER LICENSURE IS NOT NEW. PRIOR TO 2014 T WO OF THE STATE’S HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS PROVIDED SUCH PATHWAYS FOR TEACHERS OF CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION WHICH WAS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEN AND NOW THERE ARE FEW OR NO TEACHER PREPARATION PROGRAMS WITHIN THE STATE TO PREPARE FOR SEVERAL OF THE CTE TEACHING LICENSES. MOST NOTABLY THE MEDICAL CAREERS AND VARIOUS SERVICE OCCUPATIONS. SO I APPLAUD THE WORK THAT REPRESENTATIVE BIERMAN AND THE AUTHORS OF HOUSE FILE 1895 TO PROVIDE MINNESOTA WITH QUALITY CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION TEACHERS THROUGH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE CAREER AND TECHNICAL CONTINUING EDUCATION PROGRAMS IN A URGE ITS ADOPTION BY THIS COMMITTEE. THANK YOU.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU. EITHER ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY? IS THERE ANYONE? OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS BY MEMBERS? REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK>>REPRESENTATIVE RUNBECK: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. OTHER TEACHER ORGANIZATIONS EDUCATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE SUPPORTING THE BILL?>>REPRESENTATIVE BIERMAN: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. REPRESENTATIVE; I’VE SPOKEN WITH CERTAINLY PELSB IN MINNESOTA TEACHERS ASSOCIATION AND VARIOUS SCHOOL BOARDS THAT HAVE SPOKEN TO. WE’VE HAD TESTIFIERS IN OTHER EDUCATION POLICY COMMITTEES. WE HAD SUPERINTENDENT OF THURMONT SCHOOLS APPEARED THAT SPOKE ON THE NEW JUST FOR THE TRYING KIND OF TRAINING PROGRAM THEY’VE COBBLED TOGETHER DOWN THERE THAT’S WORKING VERY EFFECTIVELY FOR THEM AND THEIR ENCOUNTERING A LARGER AND LARGER NUMBER OF STUDENTS WHO HAVE INTEREST IN SOME OF THOSE TRADE SCHOOL VOCATIONAL SCHOOL PARTICIPATION. SO I’VE SEEN THE INTEREST AT ALL LEVELS OF GROUPS OF SPOKEN TO THUS FAR.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE NORNES>>REPRESENTATIVE NORNES: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. REPRESENTATIVE BIERMAN I’M JUST WONDERING IF YOU ALSO SPOKE TO ANYONE IN MINNESOTA STATE TO SEE HOW WHAT THEIR REACTION IS?>>REPRESENTATIVE BIERMAN: I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO MINNESOTA STATE ON THIS ISSUE; NO SIR.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE POPPE>>REPRESENTATIVE POPPE: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION SUPERINTENDENT BROWN WHO IS HERE TO TESTIFY ABOUT CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION AND THEY’RE USING IF I CAN REMEMBER WHO HAS A FOUR-YEAR DEGREE AND SO IT WAS MORE ABOUT THE STUDENTS AND MAKING SURE THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CLASSES OUTSIDE AND FOR THE STATE TO SUPPORT THAT. OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL DAY . THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND ACTUALLY ALLOWING PEOPLE WHO HAVE A TWO-YEAR DEGREE TO BE ABLE TO BECOME A LICENSED TEACHER BUT SO I THINK JUST TO CLARIFY WITH THE DIFFERENCE IS HERE.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE JIM BIERMAN>>REPRESENTATIVE BIERMAN: THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE POPPE FOR THE CLARIFICATION. IT WAS MORE JUST FOR THE CONVERSATION REGARDING HIS ENDORSEMENT AND ENTHUSIASM FOR THE GENERAL PROGRAM STATEWIDE THAT WE NEEDED TO INVEST IN IT A LITTLE FURTHER TO GET OPPORTUNITIES TO MORE STUDENTS BUT YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT .>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE LAYMAN>>REPRESENTATIVE LAYMAN: MME. CHAIR MY QUESTION IS PRETTY MUCH WAS WHAT REPRESENTATIVE NORNES WAS ASKING FOR THOSE ONE OF SOMEBODY FROM MINNESOTA STATE COLLEGES MIGHT BE HERE TO GIVE US THEIR REACTION>>CHAIR BERNARDY: YES; THEY ARE THANK YOU.>>TESTIFIER: GOOD AFTERNOON I AM MY TITLE STATE DIRECTOR OF THREE AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION. BY STATE TITLE IS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. SO I HAVE THE HONOR OF BEING EMPLOYED BY MINNESOTA STATE COLLEGES COULD I WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION SPECIFICALLY IN CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION. SO I’M HERE TO SAY WE NEED SOMETHING TO HELP OUR CAREER AND TECHNICAL PROGRAMS IN HIGH SCHOOLS HELP TEACHERS SO THIS BILL IF YOU THINK ABOUT HOW YOU BECOME OR HOW YOU TEACH IN HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT NOW; YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT OCCUPATIONAL PROFICIENCY COULD YOU OFTEN HAVE TO RECENCY AND RIGHT NOW GIFT OF AN ASSOCIATE DEGREE BUT YOU’D ONLY BE EMPLOYED FOR ONE YEAR THEN YOU HAVE TO REAPPLY. WHEN YOU REAPPLY; WE ARE ASKING YOU TO VERIFY THAT YOU ARE PART OF A TEACHER EDUCATION PROGRAM. AND AS RED SAID IN SEVERAL CASES NO PROGRAM EXISTED HEALTH OCCUPATION MANUFACTURING; IF YOU’RE NOT ALREADY A TEACHER. SO WHAT’S KIND OF FUNNY THE LAST AGENDA OF THE DAY BUT THIS BILL SUPPORTS A LOT OF THE OTHERS THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED. LET’S PRETEND TO THE LET’S LOOK AROUND WHOSE RUN THE TAB LE ; NEW TEACHERS WILL TEACH IN INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL DISTRICT . I HAVE A BACHELORS DEGREE. I CAN DO THAT I N A SPECIAL LICENSE FOR ONE YEAR AND THE DISTRICT AND I HAVE TO APPLY FOR THAT AND WE’RE DOING THAT SAYING ON AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM . NO MEDICAL OR HEALTH OCCUPATION PROGRAM EXISTS IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. SO FIRST OF ALL I DO WANT TO SAY YOU ARE LYING BUT THERE’S NO PROGRAM. SO WHAT WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW WITH THE CURRENT FORMAL PROGRAMS IN MINNESOTA STATE IS HAVE YOU IF YOU HAVE A BACCALAUREATE TAKE ON A MASTERS PROGRAM IN CAREER IN INSTRUCTION. THAT’S THREE CREDITS AT A MASTERS LEVEL. RUN THE NUMBERS. NOW WE ARE BAKED INTO WITH STUDENT DEBT AND IT’S GONNA TAKE YOU PROBABLY FIVE YEARS BECAUSE YOU WORK FULL-TIME. SO WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS BILL IN MY WOULD ENDORSE IT AS THE STATE DIRECTOR IS; IT PROVIDES AN ALTERNATIVE IN ITS CALLING OUT CONTINUING EDUCATION IS NOT REQUIRING A MASTERS BUT IS NOT REQUIRE A MASTERS IN TERMS OF X NUMBER OF CREDITS START AND END TIME; OR THE FINANCIAL DEBT THAT MIGHT BE THERE. IT IS SAYING TO THE END OF UNIVERSITIES; SOMETHING HAS TO BE NONTRADITIONAL IT HAS TO BE DIFFERENT AND HERE YOU GO. WE ASK YOU TO BE RESPONSIBLE. SO; THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO REPRESENTATIVE QUAM>>REPRESENTATIVE QUAM: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. A LOT OF WHAT WE ARE TOUCHING ON WERE THINGS WE ARE DEBATING WE LOOK AT THE TIERED LICENSURE SYSTEM AND SOME OF THE CHANGES THERE AND JUST KEEP IN MIND TO THE AUTHOR; WHEN YOU’RE WORKING ON THIS BILL MAY BE LEARN FROM SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES AND DEBATES THAT WENT AROUND THAT BECAUSE IT’S SOMETHING THAT FAMILIAR. OFTENTIMES IT’S EASIER TO UNDERSTAND.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE POPPE>>REPRESENTATIVE POPPE: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. I DON’T WANT TO DELAY THIS MUCH LONGER BUT SO FROM THE MINNESOTA STATE SYSTEM STATE SYSTEM OF IS THAT YOU ARE SAYING YOU SUPPORT THIS BILL AND THIS IS ASKING THE MINNESOTA STATE UNIVERSITY TO SPEND [INAUDIBLE] MUST DEVELOP A TWO-YEAR NONCONVENTIONAL AND CONTINUING ED PATHWAY PROGRAM. WHAT PREVENTS YOU RIGHT NOW FROM DOING THAT?>>TESTIFIER: MME. CHAIR REPRESENTATIVE; IT REALLY IS A NUMBER A NUMBERS GAME. I DON’T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LOT WE TALKED ABOUT THE FOUR TIERS AND BRING ALTERNATIVE IN. RIGHT NOW; LET’S TAKE HEALTH OCCUPATION BECAUSE I USE OF THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT YOU WOULD ENROLL IN A PROGRAM OR UNIVERSITY IS LOW AND WE CAN GUARANTEE IT EVERY YEAR. IT’S GOING TO CYCLE UP AND DOWN. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE [INAUDIBLE] FACTS THEY GO THROUGH A PROGRAM AND WE ARE NOT ANY OF THEM FOR TWO YEARS. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BUSINESS REQUIREMENTS OF A UNIVERSITY PROGRAM WE ARE NOT TO HAVE ENOUGH TUITION TO SUPPORT THE EXPENSES AND CERTAINLY NOT ENOUGH TUITION TO OFFSET FOR CURRICULUM DEVELOPMENT; STUDENT TEACHING OR SUPERVISION AND MENTORING FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE KLEVORN TO BE ONE ADAM CHAIR MEMBERS; THAT’S VERY CONCERNING TO ME THAT YOU ARE SAYING THERE’S NOT ENOUGH CRITICAL MASS AT THIS MOMENT TO WANT THE PROGRAM ? IS THAT WHAT I JUST HEARD?>>TESTIFIER: IF A SINGLE INSTITUTION HAD TO SUSTAIN THIS LONG-TERM WE COULD GUARANTEE IT. IT’S NOT THE SAME AS RHETORIC 101 WHERE YOU KNOW YOU HAVE 65 COUNT FOR EVERY FRESHMAN YEAR. SO IT’S A FINANCIAL RISK AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT BOTH THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA AND BEMIDJI STATE [INAUDIBLE] IT’S A RISK AND BECAUSE THERE IS OCCUPATIONAL COMPETENCIES THAT ARE REQUIRED AS WELL AS PEDAGOGY AND WE ALL ENTER AT A DIFFERENT PLACE; IT’S REALLY MANY INDIVIDUALIZED PROGRAMS WHICH ARE INTENSIVE ON THE FACULTY AND THE EXPENSE SIDE OF IT. SO IT IS TIME AND RESOURCE INTENSIVE. IT IS A RISK FOR UNIVERSITIES TO TAKE THIS ON. I USED TWO OTHER EXAMPLES. LEGISLATIVELY; THE TEACHER AGRICULTURE PROGRAM AT SOUTHWEST WAS SUPPORTED IN A FINANCIALLY SUPPORTED FOR THREE YEARS AND THAT’S A RAMP UP. EVERY YEAR IT’S A FEDERAL GRANT PUTS MONEY INTO SOUTHWEST TO SUPPORT IT’S NEEDED FOR THE COMPETENCIES FOR POSTSECONDARY CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION THROUGH THOSE REQUIRED CLASSES. IT’S JUST NOT LARGE NUMBERS.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE UGLEM WANTED YOUR FOLLOW?>>REPRESENTATIVE KLEVORN: A VERY SHORT MANAGER. SO THE APPROPRIATIONS ARE OPEN-ENDED AT THE MOMENT.>>TESTIFIER: YES.>>REPRESENTATIVE KLEVORN: DO WE HAVE ANY GUESS AS TO WHERE THAT APPROPRIATION MIGHT LOOK LIKE? AND WHAT THE INTENDED RESULT THAT WE WOULD RECEIVE FOR THAT APPROPRIATION?>>TESTIFIER: I C I CAN CIT TWO OTHER BILLS THAT WERE SIMILAR TO THE AGRICULTURE EDUCATION WAS A BELIEVE A THREE-YEAR BILL ABOUT 76;000 ANNUALLY OVER A THREE-YEAR TIME PERIOD AND ONE LICENSURE AREA THOUGH AND WE WOULD WANT MORE THAN THAT. ANOTHER BILL THAT HAS SOME SIMILARITY IS THE $3 MILLION APPROPRIATION THAT HAPPENED IN NORTHWEST MINNESOTA AND THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY AROUND HELPING OUR K-12 FACULTY GET THE 18 CREDITS OF GENERAL EDUCATION NOT GENERAL BUT CONTENT SPECIFIC EDUCATION FOR CONCURRENT ENROLLMENT. SO THOSE ARE TWO BILLS THAT I COULD CITE AND I WOULD JUST ENDED THERE.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: OKAY. DEBRIEFING ONE MORE QUESTION ON OUR LIST.>>TESTIFIER: I’VE BEEN OUT OF THE DEPARTMENT F OR FIVE YEARS MY DORMER THE NUMBERS EXACTLY WE DID UP UNTIL 2004 DID SUPPORT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA TO SOME OFFER KIND OF SOMETHING SIMILAR IN A BELIEVE WE USE APPROXIMATELY $100;000 A YEAR IN FEDERAL FUNDS TO DO THAT. IT WAS A DECISION OF THE DEPARTMENT IN 2014 TO STOP USING ITS FEDERAL FUNDS IN THAT WAY.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR>>REPRESENTATIVE PRYOR: THANK YOU; MME. CHAIR. I DO WANT TO GO ON TO A LOT OF DETAIL BUT I’M ACTUALLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE BILL AND WHAT WE DO THAT WE DON’T HAVE RIGHT NOW. THAT WE WANT TO DO IN THE FUTURE. SO THIS WOULD BE A TEACHING PROGRAM FOR TECHNICAL K-12 AND THAT YOU WOULD DO IT WITH AN ASSOCIATE DEGREE AND [INAUDIBLE] BEFORE YOUR DICK DEGREE TO SAVED IN A QUALIFIED TEACHER PROGRAM AND THEREFORE CAN QUALIFY [INAUDIBLE] AT YOUR ONE LICENSE WHICH ARE TO LICENSE? IS THAT IN ESSENCE I KNOW WERE GOING INTO THE K-12 SYSTEM GOING TO AT THIS POINT>>TESTIFIER: MME. CHAIR; TO BE FULLY LICENSE AT THE TOP AND YOU WOULD NEED TO WORK TOWARD A BACCALAUREATE DEGREE. WHAT WE FIND THE FOLKS WERE NOW CURRENTLY FILLING THESE ROLES WILL OFTEN HAVE A BACCALAUREATE DEGREE . NURSING IS AN EASY EXAMPLE WE’VE A PARAMEDIC AT ANOKA WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE. IF WE ARE PULLING FROM TRANSPORTATION AUTOMOTIVE MANUFACTURING TYPICALLY DO NOT HAVE A FULL YOUR FOUR-YEAR DEGREE. SO IDEALLY THEY WOULD BE THAT WAY. THEY WERE NOT HAVE TO BUT AT LEAST WITH INTEGRITY WHEN YOU CHECK THE BOX THAT SAYS; YOU’RE INVOLVED IN A TEACHING EDUCATION PROGRAM; YOU ACTUALLY ARE INVOLVED IN A TEACHING EDUCATION PROGRAM.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE LAYMAN WOULD YOU LIKE TO STATE SOME CLOSING REMARKS>>REPRESENTATIVE BIERMAN: JUST REITERATE THE NEED FOR THIS . IN MY CURRENT BUSINESS I WORK WITH A LOT OF BUILDING TRADE AND I SEE THE SHORTAGES FROM VIRTUALLY EVERY CONTRACTOR THAT I WORK WITH GOOD SO THERE’S THIS GREAT NEED OUT THERE AND I THINK IT JUST ANOTHER OPTION FOR OUR YOUTH TO MANY MORE DIRECT ACCESS LINKS INTO THE TRADES AND I KNOW THAT TRADES THEMSELVES WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE ACCESS TO HELP THOSE STUDENTS WILL INTERNSHIPS DURING HIGH SCHOOL AND GET SOME MORE INTO [INAUDIBLE] JUST TO INTERJECT WATER IN HIGH SCHOOL TO SEE WHAT THE TRADES ARE LIKE AND MINNESOTA NEEDS A LOT OF TRADESPEOPLE IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE. SO I HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER THIS AND WE CAN GET WORKING ON IT THE PROPER TEACHERS ASKED IN THE PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. REPRESENTATIVE XIONG>>REPRESENTATIVE XIONG: I RENEW THE MOTION TO LAY OVER HOUSE FILE 1895 FOR POSSIBLE INCLUSION.>>CHAIR BERNARDY: OKAY. REPRESENTATIVE XIONG MAKES THE MOTION HOUSE FILE 1895 BE BE LAID OVER FOR POSSIBLE INCLUSION IN THE HIGHER EDUCATION OMNIBUS BILL.>>>>[LAUGHING]>>CHAIR BERNARDY: A NEW NAME. THE MOTION PASSES.>>[GAVEL]>>CHAIR BERNARDY: THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.>>[GAVEL]>>[ADJOURNMENT]>>

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