The dark side of Australia’s rooftop solar energy obsession | 7.30

The dark side of Australia’s rooftop solar energy obsession | 7.30


Rex Leighton spent $8,000 installing solar
panels on his Wollongong home. To look to have longer term smaller electricity
bills and secondly, as a desire to try and move towards renewable energy and we wanted
to be a part of that. After just four and a half years, they are
headed for the tip. It made me feel a bit sick really because
the warranty was for 10 years on the product and we were expecting a substantially longer
time than that. The 20-panel system had been damaged by water. These can’t be fixed. There’s no way of reversing
the issue that they have with them. They are basically just dead panels. Johann Fleury’s company is taking down the
panels and replacing them. A large amount of those earlier panels, since
I’d say 2008 all the way till probably about 2014, a lot of those panels that have gone
up on roofs, have come back down off roofs. Johann is just one of dozens of solar installers
7.30 has spoken to who say poor quality rooftop solar is all too common. You’ll have bottom of the barrel sort of guys
going out there and smashing it out and trying to get it in as best as possible and as quick
as possible for as little money as possible but they’re the systems that are likely to
last two years and then I’ll be there, going there and replacing those systems and I don’t
want to be doing that. One of the industry’s peak bodies, the Clean
Energy Council, has the power to accredit solar products and installers. Last year the council suspended 160 solar
installers and cancelled the accreditations of 12 more. It also struck more than 5,500 models of solar
panel off its list of approved products. So the solar industry does have its dark horse.
There’s a lot of things that are wrong or negative within the solar industry. As a consumer it is very hard to tell what
you’ve bought. Consumers are sometimes getting what they
think they’re getting and sometimes not. In Canberra, Dr Michelle McCann runs one of
the few laboratories in Australia that conducts commercial testing of solar panels. She’s measuring how much electricity a panel
can produce from a single flash of light. You can’t tell by looking at the outside of
a panel whether it’s going to be good or bad, and you can’t tell by looking at the brand
name of a panel whether it’s going to be good or bad. We’ve had the same brands performing well
and also poorly and they are brand names that you would expect to perform well. In some tests, new panels have produced about
10 per cent less energy than their advertised rating. To my mind, it raises questions then about
what that panel’s going to do after one year, or three or five, let alone 25 years in the
field. She says manufacturers overseas are sending
poor quality batches of solar panels to Australia, believing they will never get caught. Australian consumers are notorious, and they
are known overseas, for caring a lot about price and for not caring very much about quality,
and when that happens you get the cheaper product and the cheaper product isn’t the
better performing product. Do you think Australia has a problem with
low quality solar that has been installed in the past, that is still on people’s roofs? No, I don’t think Australia has a problem
and I think what we’ve got here is a minimum standard that ensures safety and a minimal
level of quality for solar systems. About one in five homes has rooftop solar. Australia’s Clean Energy Regulator has inspected
just over 1 per cent of them. Of those, one in six installations was found
to be substandard and one in 30, unsafe. Late last year the Australian National Audit
Office (ANAO) found it is likely there would be hundreds of thousands of substandard installations
and tens of thousands of unsafe solar systems across the country. The Clean Energy Regulator declined an interview
with 7.30 but the Clean Energy Council says the vast majority of solar systems are safe
and an unsafe rating is not as bad as it sounds. Well, we need to be clear firstly that this
categorisation is about potentially unsafe systems and we’re obviously very focussed
on continuing to reduce that number and the regulatory framework in place that applies
to the product and also the way in which it is installed, we believe is working and that’s
because the number of unsafe systems is continuing to reduce over time. State and territory authorities conduct their
own checks on rooftop solar but some are more comprehensive than others. In Victoria, Tasmania and the ACT, authorities
inspect every system that is installed. While in some other states, there are regimes
of targeted inspections. But 7.30 understands that some states have
become increasingly dissatisfied with the national regulator’s testing regime. An explosion has destroyed a home in Ellenbrook. He believes it was the homes solar power inverter
that went off. Had the solar panels connected to lithium
ion batteries in the garage for around a year and suspects that the fire began somewhere
near the batteries. My role is to determine cause and origin of
fires. At Melbourne’s Metropolitan Fire Brigade,
fire investigator Steve Attard, is working in the evidence room. He is sorting through the remains of a solar
system that was responsible for a house fire late last year. In the last five years we’ve had 25 fires
approximately involving solar systems. People are losing their homes. Both the fire brigade and the regulator have
pointed to problems with a safety measure that was introduced about 15 years ago. It is a switch to shut off the flow of power
from solar panels called a DC isolator. This is a DC isolator that was up in the roof
… The units can be damaged by water and then
catch fire spreading across the roof before anyone notices. Certain brands have been recalled but there
is still a great number of the old isolators built out there in service which, at some
point in time, will pose a risk. The Clean Energy Council has been calling
for a review of the requirement for rooftop DC isolators because we think it is an appropriate
point in time to reflect on the intent of these devices and indeed, the extent to which
they are actually making the system safer. Are they making solar systems less safe? Well, I don’t think there is any evidence
of that at this point in time. Attractive government subsidies have driven
the massive growth in demand for rooftop solar. Now there are fears that Australia could repeat
the same mistakes with the next big boom in household energy – home batteries. The National Audit Office has found the risks
of batteries include electric shock, gas explosion and fire. About 60,000 batteries have already been connected
but Australia still doesn’t have an agreed minimum safety standards for their installation. The Clean Energy Council has accredited almost
1,000 people to install home batteries. Do you think the market then has got ahead
of regulation? Home batteries are fundamentally very safe. And we need to remember that these type of
batteries have been used in cars for many, many years, electric vehicles. They’re also not dissimilar to the batteries
that are in many people’s homes in the form of their cordless power tools. But the concerns about rooftop solar aren’t
just about safety. Industry veteran Markus Lambert sells high-end
systems and says poor quality solar doesn’t help reduce Australia’s carbon emissions. The problem is in many cases, it hasn’t even
gained it’s CO2 back by the time its failed, so you’ve actually got the irony that we’re
paying a rebate for solar that hasn’t helped with abatement. He too, has teams of installers removing failed
and unsafe solar systems from rooftops. Right now in Australia, for all those failed
panels, we don’t even have a mandatory recycling scheme. So when these panels fail, they end up at
the local tip and there is no scheme for recycling and we have the product failing – that’s a
failure. Given these issues, is Australia’s market
for renewable energy working as it should? One of the big selling points of solar is
the government incentives that reduce the cost of solar systems, and form the basis
for the national trade in carbon abatement. When someone installs solar panels, a renewable
energy certificate is created which assumes the panels will produce clean energy for 12
years but if the solar panels fail after just a few years, the certificate can still be
bought by a company to offset its emissions. This market for certificates from rooftop
solar as well as wind and solar farms, is worth $1.5 billion a year and rising. We’re drawing less from the grid so we are
providing for ourselves a bit. It’s a feel-good thing. It feels good to do
stuff like that, like it feels good, I think. The Taylors live in Melbourne’s west and run
a business making signs for the cities galleries. Earlier this year they spent about $4,000
on a rooftop solar system. Most of the retailers I spoke to warned of
the cowboy approach of the installers and some retailers. So, you kind of look at that and you just
opt for the ones that are certified by the Clean Energy Council. But when John Taylor went to apply for the
Victorian Government’s rebate to get half his money back, he found the rebate program
had suddenly closed just hours before. And that was at nine o’clock so for a matter
of two and a half hours, if I have of got up a bit earlier, I probably would have got
a rebate. It is disappointing that we’re not going to
get it but I imagine it would hurt other people more than us. Like the two million other homes and businesses
that have invested in rooftop solar, the Taylors are full of good intentions. They can only hope they are getting what they
paid for. There is more work to be done, I don’t think
anyone disputes that but again, we need to reflect on the actual outcomes for householders
here. The audit data shows that systems are becoming
safer and safer. We’ve got over two million Australian households with rooftop solar and
very, very few actual incidents relating to safety within the industry. When you put solar installation on your roof,
you’re putting a little mini power station on your roof. You would never, ever build
a coal-fired power plant without doing quality checks on it but we’re doing that with solar
rooftops.

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  1. Wonderful,,, in hindsight we now find Chinese crap is exactly that, solar panels and associated equipment that were once made here or Europe would indeed be very reliable and safe, but as usual the Chinese jump on the bandwagon and the wheels fall off as local manufacturers are closing shop or moving to China….. either way we lose.
    Worth noting though the word overseas was used copiously never once china.

  2. Its more that every item made nowadays is crap construction with shit materials. When you know you will be replacing it regardless may aswell get cheaper..

  3. This sounds like warming the water before kicking everyone out of the pool. Making solar restricted and home batteries illegal or so unfeasible only oil mongers can afford it.

  4. If everyone had solar. And local/ suburb/ block storage stations. It would almost eliminate the need for the grid as we have it now.

  5. The global average co2 level, as determined by ice core samples is 2000ppm. Today we are at 400ppm. There is no crisis, there is no co2 related warning. There is no real science to prove as much.

    Co2 is not the enemy.

  6. what shit "journalism" Its very obvious that the ABC are just liberal attack dogs, placing a negative spin on what the liberal government tell them to. I am so disappointed to see this 60 minute style video from the ABC. A waste of my hard earned tax dollars.

  7. You get what you pay for, buy cheap, get cheap, the solar on my parents house has been working great for 10+ years now, now I'm trying to get them to get a power wall as well, the power company's are paying next to nothing for the power you put back into the grid, but you have to love the ABC's groveling, gotta keep Scomos Coal and Gas industry going.

  8. All I'm hearing is that the technology has gotten a lot better over the last 15yrs and is continuing to get better. Thank you to all the pioneers that put solar on early, we are now creating safe, quality solar energy because of you.

  9. It's a failure that there isn't a recycling scheme to recycle the failed panels that fail? FAIL!

  10. Grid feed solar panels, complete waste of money. We started at 33c /kw and now it's decreased to 9c /kw.
    Clearly climate change in Victoria isn't a thing.

  11. Lots of people pointing out it's only five houses per year, but you have to keep in mind these systems are relatively new and the fires will get more frequent due to the poor design of the isolators.
    This is a guy shows why, the weather seal breaks down so the fill with water and rust, this is a problem that might be small now, but won't be in decades to come.
    https://youtu.be/ITfQ4S0OUhs

  12. The truth is, solar manufacturers faced big losses since China entered this field. Oversupply problem makes installing solar system become cheaper but also more poor quality panels sold by China to customers because sellers do no make profit selling panels. Customers do not know the quality standard of the panels they bought,so that's why.

  13. So… pure curiosity, as I'm not Australian and just sow part of the video, what's the purpose of this video? My logic tells me there are greater interests behind the blackening of the solar systems…

  14. I think there should be an investigation as to who / what company sponsors or financially incentivises this & other videos / news stores damming solar PV installations. Try looking in the direction of the coal industry & look hard, as they will be covering their tracks to make financial auditing trails difficult to follow.
    One of the two problems highlighted refers to the DC Isolator switches. They were installed outside & probably moisture ingress caused a HV short then a fire. Simple solution; install the DC Isolators INSIDE the building & specify that they should be specified as waterproof. My DC isolators are installed within the loft space (nice 'n' dry up there).
    Second problem referred to was the Inverters. Now I reside in the UK so it simply doesn't get too hot here, however most parts of Australia endure very, very hot temperatures in the Aussie summers. The siting of the inverters simply needs to be in a cool & dry location. Probably with a temperature activated fan to cool them when it gets too hot. Finally some cheapo inverters are not encased within fireproof cases. My SMA inverters are built within cast aluminium metal boxes & are pretty heavy duty.
    Third problem that I could see, although it wasn't mentioned was the angle the PV panels were mounted at & water ingress. The video showed the panels mounted nearly horizontal. Ummm….. guess what happens with water & condensation where the surfaces are horizontal. Ummm…. marks out of ten for guessing that the water just stays there & builds up until it shorts the electrics. My panels are all mounted on an angle, then water drains off with gravity. Believe me there's considerably more rainfall, mist & fog in the UK than in the lovely Australia. But mount the panels on an angle & the water will drain off & not be a problem; simples.
    The last thing that annoyed me about this video was the statement that the used panels were going to go to landfill – ahhhhhhhhh !!! Give them to me; pleeeeeeeeeese! To determine whether a PV panel is ok or not is really simply. Measure the voltage across the panel's wires in daylight & for example a 250w panel the open circuit should measure about 37v DC, then do another test with all the panels that pass the first open circuit test; wire them together in series & measure the cumulative voltage across the input & output wires. Again should be approximately 30v DC times the number of 250w panels, when connected to the inverter & therefore in closed circuit mode. Note: you would need to flex the voltages for different panels of varying power outputs & it is easy just to check the manufacturers specification sheets. I'm guessing that most of those PV panels were just fine & its a massive waste of good used solar panels just to dump them.
    Summary: just install the system correctly & learn from past mistakes & do not be stupid enough to repeat them. Stay safe, be environmentally friendly.
    My apologies for going off on one here, but this video made me hopping mad. And I love Australia.
    Regards to all, JohnnyK.

  15. Luckily this video mentions the 10 year warranty, so these panels will have been replaced free of charge at no cost to the householder. Early solar installations are more likely to have problems as manufacturers, installers and regulators needed time and early adopters to learn and get up to speed with solar panel systems and remember the government gave out grants for these early systems to create a market for all of the above to to learn how to do solar well. Note that the fact that there is no recycling of panels points out that there is actually a lack of need – solar panel failure is actually pretty rare. So usual rules apply – use quality components (like SolarEdge Inverters) and a trusted installer, If in doubt get a trusted installer to check your system, remembering that new panels and a new inverter for an old system would give you more power generation anyway and you might need more power soon as your next car is very likely to be electric.

  16. Main reason behind the accident is lithium battery , use lead acid battery. Ignore efficiency, safety first

  17. ​@Jack Staten Whereas just north of Germany is Norway, a country that has more renewable energy than it knows what to do with (a lot is wind), and where more than 60% of cars seen on the road are electric. Norway is a real eye-opener. Oh, and when you say that German energy prices have increased this is true for the whole of Europe but Europe including Germany is reducing the use of the expensive coal, oil, and gas that is the cause of higher electricity generation costs. Here in cold cloudy Europe renewable energy is growing rapidly because it is now cheaper than coal, oil or gas generation and the whole life costs have now become cheaper than using coal, oil, gas or nuclear – so the energy industry is driving growth, not governments, and in this month (May 2019, early summer) over 70% of European power generation has been from renewable energy (the UK has managed 100%). so I think your comments about Germany are somewhat outdated.

  18. Why are they pushing solar panels when they've been proven time and time again to be harmful to consumers

  19. Ok that solar/electric thing didn’t work out. Back to safe clean natural gas or maybe even kerosene lamps.

  20. I am for alternative energy and Australia is an interesting country trying to go for more alternative energy solar and battery. First of all why aren't those electrical things including panels, batteries, and all connections and switches waterproofed for anything located outside of the house and can get rain and snow on them. Also the panels themselves, those crystalline silicon panels are expensive and inefficient compared to newer kinds of panels including better kinds of crystalline silicon panels that are expensive but are very well done from sunpower company. Then there are panels that are cheaper but also very good that are CdTe instead of crystalline silicon and have good efficiency. So get those panels that can actually last for about 25 years and have reasonable EROEI and FROFI. EROEI= Energy Return On Energy Investment and FROFI = Financial Return On Financial Investment. Those CdTe panels are low enough in cost that you don't even need government subsidies anymore and the government should spend taxpayer money on research on lowering the cost of alternative energy instead of subsidizing manufactured product. Especially research on lowering the cost of the battery.

  21. This is a good news segment that should be titled – "When Getting Rooftop Solar: Don't Skimp, Get Certified".

  22. Bloody stupid idea putting an isolator switch on the roof open to the elements for years! All that sun baking the plastic and over time water will get in to an essential electrical box.

    What muppet thought that was a good idea?! I have a solar array on my roof in the UK and all the wires and switches are either under the panels or indoors.

  23. I call bull crap on very many points regarding this video … as a Canadian that is 100% off grid for the last 4.5 years of time , I see a huge potential business opportunity here … firstly , change the rules for solar and allow for off grid homes …fruck the utility companies and their fear mongering about individuals safety …simply have cut off switches at the panels , and if needed , flick the switch to have solar only , or back to the grid , but half the cost for the benefit of paying them money for service. Secondly, perhaps place a simple individual in charge of solar disposals = far lesser costs involved for disposals , because he or she could easily correct any faulty panels and then sell them at a serious discount … as for the government testing , …PLEASE CHECK ALL VEHICLE FUEL CONSUMPTION STANDARDS TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE ACCURATE ! Lastly , any solar panel is usable if understood correctly , so the cowboy character explaining all of the panels are ruined is total crap … very biased mini documentary here , but of course = fake news …T…

  24. I am currently getting solar installed, literally part way through the install. The people installing the system have caused an elec surge that blew up my air con, i dont know how i can prove that they did it but it would be a near impossible coincidence that this power surge happened in the same 3 hour window that they were switching my power on and off etc. I know they are trying to get out of accepting responsibility. I have just been through the entire summer with no air con and with my current health problems the summer was nearly enough to completely finish me. Now we have no heating and its winter. the winter just after having no cooling during the summer. I'm at wits end and my wife is distressed, I dont know who to turn to for help geting this company to fix what they broke.

  25. One way to avoid fires is make things where they do not overheat. Such as use large enough wires and switches. Just because a switch is good for 100a and 600v AC does not mean that it can even handle 150vdc at 50a. That is because DC creates arcs that do not self extinguish as AC arcs do. Also it is better to use slightly larger wires than just the minimum according to code. In addition batteries generate heat when charging and discharging. If there is no cooling there is a major fire risk, and it is worse with lithium than the lead acid. As lead acid will usually explode and make a bad mess of things if overloaded, a lithium battery is more likely to burn as it does not consist of as much water as lead acid batteries do for unit charge. Then there is the matter of contacts as a poor contact creates arcing and this creates heat and fires as well. This goes into good design and testing for safety. If something is designed for 5 amps maximum and someone is putting more that that it is a problem, and going for the maximum without enough cooling is a problem as well. Best to derate things and play it safe, as it means safety and longer product life.

  26. There's an old saying … "The man who knows the price of everything knows the value of nothing!"

    Funny how most of Europe, that has FEWER hours of sunshine on average (by far) than Oz and has a massively larger installed base of solar PV panels, isn't seeing these same problems!

    My own solar pv installation, installed by previous house owners seven years ago still manages to put out very close to its 3.5kW max output on a regular basis, even as early as March!

    I suppose it says a lot about Ozzie tightfistedness that they think Foster's is a "good" beer! Stop exporting YOUR crap all over the world and maybe you'll get some quality products imported in return!? DOH!

  27. So who is responsible for not providing quality checks and recycling. Sounds like pink bats on steroids.

  28. As a ten year veteran of solar listen up.
    Grid connected solar is raising power prices at an alarming rate. The grid is now far less reliable and far more prone to failure. ALL PANELS are manufactured in China under disgraceful conditions. Panel manafacturing is unbelievably bad for the environment. Huge amounts of rare earth minerals are needed to make panels. When they fail all those resources go in to landfill. Inverters have all the same issues as above. Batteries are even worse! They are an explosive, chemical/hazard bolted to your house.
    In my professional opinion all grid connected solar should be outlawed. Do not ever listen to the greens and greens voters, they are uninformed self righteous halfwits. Period.

  29. Energy prices are rising extremely fast to very expensive numbers to the point that when you do not have solar panels, forget about heating your house in winter or cooling your house in summer with electricity. And they have to rise the prices because of the number of solar panels uploading electricity to the net, benefiting of a reduction of the bill. It is a vicious cycle ….

  30. The home batteries are cutting into the profits of Energy companies . That is the reason for the fear mongery. They already had to raise electricity prices to keep profit because of all the people with solar panels having lower bills. Off course they compensated by just raising the electricity price for the remaining need and minimising the rate you get when uploading electricity to the net from your panels. But then go imagine you do not have these panels on your roof . For those people , electricity has become too expensive to heat/cool their house.

  31. ABC News stop fear mongering 25 fires in 5 years is nothing and if it was an issue the Australian government would have called for a recall of all solar systems and would have done an investigation and replaced them all. this video is just a waste of reporting talent. i bet you guys got paid by AGL or origin to report on this

  32. No surprise the establishment has turned on rooftop solar. The climate change agenda is supposed to transfer all your resources to the state, not save you money and liberate you from the grid!

  33. A relative of mine had solar panels installed the installer suggested to put them on his shed and run the supply to the house. Why was this ? Because electricity can’t be isolated from the panels in the event of a fire and fire man will just contain the fire and let your house burn as it’s a danger of electrocution with water hoses. So if you have a large shed solar panel installers will opt to use that. If the insurance companies knew I bet premiums will go through the roof for solar panelled homes.

  34. Sensationalist, hopelessly biased, piece.
    All business sectors have their sharks and conmen. The general movement is up and away for PV.

  35. I'd rather run the risk of solar systems catching fire, than every other appliance in my frigging house! By the metric on this propoganda show, toasters should be illegal.

  36. ALL KNOWN LITHIUM DEPOSITS AND RESERVES WILL BE DEPLETED WITHIN 15YEARS. PLUS THE MANUFACTURING OF GREEN ENERGY IN CHINA HAS WITHIN THE LAST 20 YEARS BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR DEATHS AND CONTRIBUTED TO BEIJING BEING THE MOST POLLUTED ON PLANET. ALL FROM TOXINS AND CHEMICALS. MORE THAN FOSSIL FUELS AND COAL HAS EVER PRODUCED. BEIJING HAD BICYCLES 20YEARS AGO. POLLUTION FROM CHEMICALS OF NEW TECHNOLOGY. CHINA NOW SUFFERS AN EPIDEMIC OF CHILDREN BORN WITH RESPIRATORY DISEASE'S NONE FROM FOSSIL FUELS.
    WITHOUT FOSSIL FUELS HALF THE WORLD'S POPULATION STARVES. GLOBAL WARMING HAS BEEN PROVEN BY THE PRESIDENT OF CLIMATOLOGIST FOR UNITED NATIONS WHO WON NOBEL PRIZE FOR GLOBAL WARMING THEORY AS A CYCLE THAT IS IDENTICAL BETWEEN 1880 TO EARLY 1920S. AFTER ALL 35 METEOROLOGICAL TECHNIQUES AND CALCULATIONS DID NOT MATCH. OUR SMALL POPULATION SITTING ON MASSIVE RESOURCES SHOULD CONTINUE WITH COAL POWER OTHERWISE OUR FUTURE AUSTRALIANS WILL HAVE NO CONTROL OR OWNERSHIP OF THIS LAND AS FOREIGN TAKE OVER AND OWNERSHIP WILL BE A REALITY. AFTER WHICH THAT COAL WILL STILL BE MINED TO POWER THE COUNTRIES WHO ARE BUILDING NEW STATIONS ALL THE TIME. THIS INCLUDES GERMANY AND OTHER EUROPEAN COUNTRIES. ALL WE ARE DOING IS PUTTING STRAIN ON FAMILIES. OCEANS NEED ATTENTION CRITICAL NOW. SALINITY DECLINE KILLS BARRIER REEF WHO'S ECOSYSTEM ALSO EFFECTS MANGROVE ECOSYSTEMS THAT IS THE LIFE OF INLAND RIVER SYSTEMS. DOMINO EFFECT THAT RESULTS IN ALL KNOWN LIFE EXTINCTION. ATTENTION IN WRONG AREAS.
    THESE ARE ALL FACTS.

  37. Why do they push the blame onto all solar installers and not the cowboys using cheap gear and labour? Not only that but also the customers wanting the cheapest system possible but wanting top of the line performance and durability/reliability;
    Good, Fast, Quick. These are the three options you get during installation, but you only get to choose two. Be realistic, you pay shit you get shit

  38. No comparisons with other safety issues. Going by their numbers it sounded pretty safe to me and it's getting better. It sounded on the sensational side, reminded me a little bit of A Current Affair.

  39. Would be nice to get a straight answer from the Clean Energy Council. Which is probably not going to happen when the majority of its members are from the Industry and presumably have a vested interest.

  40. what about the toxic chemicals leached by cracked, old or dumped solar panels? If you have solar I wouldn't be drinking the rain water . while the dumped panels are leaking cadmium and other carcinogens into the ground destroying it for year's and producing toxic dust.

  41. Australia is loaded with cheap coal. which means cheap electricity. but why is realife heading the opposite direction? the electricity price is stupidly expensive even compared with countys lack of natural resources.

  42. @David Crick ….. nice,,, send one nuke and they send 100,,,, nah mate the ones that need to be nuked are the "foreign importers, pisweak politicians(traitors) ," pissweak border security pissweak import policies and immigration policy.
    With little or no protective import tariffs industry and jobs were doomed here from the day we first imported cheap cars from Japan, and the unions allowed to throttle the life out of what remained of the Australian manufacturing sector, just learn to speak mandarin and work a bit more cheaper give up owning your property a few civil rights then "she'll be right mate"

  43. I am glad that someone has posted that solar panels are not as great as everyone is pushing them to be

  44. So solar is great and it will save the world, unless it's in the hands of the general public, in which case it'dangerous anc not carbon neutral… got it. This only furthers the theory that the whole climate "industry" is all about control and getting your money, not saving the planet.

  45. I watch the EEVBLog on YouTube. He had a DC isolator fail after 7 years. So there are problems with EV systems in Oz. In the UK many EV companies go bust within the guarantee period.

  46. lol now LG's panels have 25 years warranty and they also promise near 90% performance after these years. why buying something cheap and then whining?

  47. When audited 1 in 30 systems were rated as unsafe, well that's a fail. That's not saying the PV solar is a bad idea, it's just saying that the way that it is being done needs to be improved and possibly in some areas some additional checks should be done retroactively for safety's sake. This is not a hatchet job on solar, these are all legitimate concerns:
    – Occasional poor performance;
    – Some Cowboy installers;
    – No recycle scheme;
    – No verification of post installation performance for carbon credits;
    – Potential issues with respect to electrical and fire safety; …etc

    There are appropriate solutions to all of these issues that will make PV solar a more robust and safer energy source, so let's crack on and fix this. Pretending these issues don't exist or accusing me or ABC of being a fossil fuel schil, do nothing to advance this technology or protect Australian consumers who are plunking down larges sums on some of these systems and too often NOT getting what they and taxpayers are paying for.

  48. I am a tradesmen with Milwaukee cordless power tools (which are awesome tools 👍) but in saying that even those expensive tools have battery problems, the technology needs more research and improvements so it becomes flawless

  49. Australia mines the lithium (because it has the most), sells it to China, they sell it back as cheapo batteries, and our houses burn down. WTF

    Here's a thought. Australia should keep its high grade lithium (sell the crap), make our own expensive (and they will be) high-end batteries and flood the global market with the highest quality, safest, greenest, and best bang for buck lithium storage battery in town.

    It means a lot of re-tooling of existing infrastructure, complete roll-outs of new infrastructure, a total rethinking at the political level and truck loads of money. Australia is one of, if not the most prosperous nations on the globe…..yes we can….

  50. Ive benifited from this scourge. A friend of mine pulled off a bunch of panels for insurance concerns. Im using these panels in an offgrid situation. About 80% down in nameplate capacity, but still producing energy (for free). Batteries recycled, panels recycled.

    I think definitely, there are always charlatans. But far more good is being done. And if youve dodgy panels, DONT PUT THEM IN LANDFILL! Send em to me! Or anyone else who wants them. They can be used in less than ideal situations. Gumtree + removal = bottle of scotch. Winners all round.

  51. Well didin heard any of those problems in my country, maybe becouse australia use only chinese solar panels

  52. While individual batteries are relatively safe, when you combine them in stacks of thousands, you're exponentially more likely to get a catastrophic cascade failure.

  53. Lol this is such a stupid report. So we shouldn't have 240V at all if batteries can give us an electric shock? Gas should be shut off as well given that batteries set on fire?
    You know what's a real failure in Australia? The government on all levels. Fix our non-existent waste recycling system here. We look like complete morons separating our waste but then most of it goes off to landfill or is stored in warehouses until it is sold overseas.

  54. I am glad that I did not succumb to the hyperbole , to instal solar panels. Instead I watch my electricity use and consumption, by ensuring unecessary lights are turned off.

  55. Why don't we have these kind of problems here in Europe, where the weather is much harder on solar panels than in Australia? (rain, snow, ice, storms, sun)

  56. Stupid Australia dont have a system to stop import poor solar panel enter our land. Government rebate 2/3 cost to have people have solar on the roof. But poor panel is just help oversea jobs only and dumb rubbish solar material into Australia land. Mean government paid thousands of dollar for rubbish on each roof solar….why, why, ?

  57. Everything is a scam and don't expect an honest answer from politicians because they all approve these scams for their own benefit.

  58. Like many have noticed it looks more like fear-mongering by the energy companies and/or making a story out of nothing by the news agencies.

  59. Recently, a province in China, Qinghai Province, 5.6 million population .
    From June 9th to June 23rd 2019, there will be 15 consecutive days of full clean energy supply test, only photovoltaic, hydropower and wind energy. Previously, there have been records for 7 consecutive days and 9 days. It’s 15 days now.
    hope that all countries will not give up these technical cooperation that can change the world for political reasons , and hope that all human environments can become better.

  60. Wtf! "The batteries have been used in cars for years." Shows what he knows. These are deep cycle batteries which are not used in cars other than for running a fridge or similar…

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